Kqs - Did I Play This Screwy?

[tsunamii 0]

Villain is 35/10/5 over 50 hands.Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)MP ($51.97)CO ($76.66)Hero ($47.25)SB ($16.62)BB ($30.40)UTG ($65.18)Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, K. SB posts a blind of $0.25. UTG raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero calls $4, 2 folds.Flop: ($8.75) 5, 3, 4(2 players)UTG bets $5, Hero raises to $15, UTG raises to $25, Hero calls $10.Turn: ($58.75) 5(2 players)UTG calls $36.18 (All-In), Hero calls $18.25 (All-In).River: ($113.18) A(2 players, 2 all-in)Final Pot: $113.18Given size of villain's preflop raise, I put him on a medium pp (88-JJ) preflop. Given that read, I'm a favorite on the flop. What do you think of my raise? I figured if my read was wrong I could fold overs that missed, but if my read was right, I didn't mind a push given my (assumed) statistical edge. I was obviously committed on the turn. Should I have just called on the flop and risked being pushed off my draw on the turn? Should I have pushed on the flop, given my edge? Was my raise okay? Help!

[Lavitz 0]

Villain is 35/10/5 over 50 hands.Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)MP ($51.97)CO ($76.66)Hero ($47.25)SB ($16.62)BB ($30.40)UTG ($65.18)Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, K. SB posts a blind of $0.25. UTG raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero calls $4, 2 folds.Flop: ($8.75) 5, 3, 4(2 players)UTG bets $5, Hero raises to $15, UTG raises to $25, Hero calls $10.Turn: ($58.75) 5(2 players)UTG calls $36.18 (All-In), Hero calls $18.25 (All-In).River: ($113.18) A(2 players, 2 all-in)Final Pot: $113.18Given size of villain's preflop raise, I put him on a medium pp (88-JJ) preflop. Given that read, I'm a favorite on the flop. What do you think of my raise? I figured if my read was wrong I could fold overs that missed, but if my read was right, I didn't mind a push given my (assumed) statistical edge. I was obviously committed on the turn. Should I have just called on the flop and risked being pushed off my draw on the turn? Should I have pushed on the flop, given my edge? Was my raise okay? Help!

At this limit its hard to pinpoint a villian on any sort of raising hand with p-flop raise. Raising 8BB is unusual but doesnt mean he has a medium pocket pair. This bet could be based on his personal playing style or texture of table. If there are commonly plenty of limpers then he might not want to go to flop with a premium pair against more then one guy.I would usually fold KQs to 8BB raise from opponent who raises only 10 percent of their hands unless we were both deep stacked. However, his high agression is also an added plus of calling as it indicates higher reward for risk if you hit a hand.As for flop, I like the reraise as his continuation bet screams weakness (5 dollars into 9 dollar pot?) Sometimes I like to cold call and try taking it on the turn though as this accomplishes taking a cheap card and putting him to the test of firing out again or checking. However, as played, when he further reraises I probably come over top. Unless he has same flush draw you do with ace, I cant see him calling with overcards, thus preventing your overcards from being dominated to solely flush draw purposes. Of course he will probably call with middle pairs but that makes your K and Q draws good.

[Jordan 1]

seriously, fold preflop.Calling $4 PF at $50nl is ridiculous with KQ, especially when he is only raising 10% of his hands (although it's only based on 50 hands).Push the flop when he re-raises you, or dump...don't just call.You also need to consider he is raising UTG...so you can expect his range to be a bit tighter. Although this is six max, if he is only raising 10% of his hands, yet has a 35 vpip, he probably actually has JJ - AA more likely than a small pair. I don't think you had all your overcards as live outs...but this is a preflop mistake more than post flop. Also, if you both were a bit deeper, like 200bb, I wouldn't mind the pf call as much...although it's still 8bb, which is a lot to call cold at all limits.- Jordan

[Naismith 0]

I do not, not, not, not, not, not, not care for the flop raise if we put the villain on an overpair.We raise to get a free look at the river or to take the pot down there on a semi-bluff. We're putting this aggressive player on a pair higher than the board, so what exactly does our raise accomplish other than guarantee we get all of the money in as a dog? I really don't like it at all.

[fckthis 0]

This is a poorly played hand all around. Next time, dont GIVE yourself odds, by mindlessly pumping your draw.

[tsunamii 0]

I know this is a loose call pf that I normally wouldn't make. I only did in this case because 1) I thought I had a read on this player and 2) I had the button. But sure, it's a loose call.Given that I did call it though, I don't think my raise was "mindless." Assuming my read was right (an assumption, obviously), I was a favorite on the flop. I had 15 outs (any king, queen, or club with two cards to come). Why wouldn't I want to get more money in the pot if I thought I was a favorite? I figure the raise accomplished two things - I'm raising for value here (if my read is right) and as a semi bluff (if he's got overs). It seems to me that my raise is bad only if he's got QQ-AA or a set.Am I wrong?

[Scott3705 0]

I know this is a loose call pf that I normally wouldn't make. I only did in this case because 1) I thought I had a read on this player and 2) I had the button. But sure, it's a loose call.Given that I did call it though, I don't think my raise was "mindless." Assuming my read was right (an assumption, obviously), I was a favorite on the flop. I had 15 outs (any king, queen, or club with two cards to come). Why wouldn't I want to get more money in the pot if I thought I was a favorite? I figure the raise accomplished two things - I'm raising for value here (if my read is right) and as a semi bluff (if he's got overs). It seems to me that my raise is bad only if he's got QQ-AA or a set.Am I wrong?

reraise the flop then.

[fckthis 0]

I know this is a loose call pf that I normally wouldn't make. I only did in this case because 1) I thought I had a read on this player and 2) I had the button. But sure, it's a loose call.Given that I did call it though, I don't think my raise was "mindless." Assuming my read was right (an assumption, obviously), I was a favorite on the flop. I had 15 outs (any king, queen, or club with two cards to come). Why wouldn't I want to get more money in the pot if I thought I was a favorite? I figure the raise accomplished two things - I'm raising for value here (if my read is right) and as a semi bluff (if he's got overs). It seems to me that my raise is bad only if he's got QQ-AA or a set.Am I wrong?

Fine granted, but put your money in on the flop, when your equity is the highest.

[Naismith 0]

reraise the flop then.

Amen.If we're going to put it in, put it in when we're about 50-50 rather than on the turn when we're not.The point I was making earlier was that you knew the guy had an overpair to the board and your raise wasn't pushing him off the hand. If you want to go with this hand, go with it and get it in there. Otherwise, just call and release on the turn.

[tsunamii 0]

I know I should have reraised the flop, and I have no idea why I didn't.Other than that though, is the initial flop raise sound given my previous analysis?