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#1 timwakefield

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 01:29 PM

Down to 2 tables in the $3rebuy. Avg stack is over 1 million.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t60000 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

CO (t1052655)
Button (t915396)
SB (t1885679)
BB (t717188)
UTG (t285077)
MP1 (t2631295)
Hero (t724485)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with , .
2 folds, Hero raises to t220000, CO raises to t1049655, 3 folds,
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Posted 23 July 2006 - 01:33 PM

Coin flip.
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Posted 23 July 2006 - 03:07 PM

I'd say it's a fold.

Given

77+
AJ+, KQ

and guesses at how often he psuhes these....


Hand Combos PushOdds Adj % We win Gain AveAmnt Won
AK 16 95 15.2 0.5 1,034,485 108,144
AQ 16 75 12 0.5 1,034,485 85,377
AJ 16 45 7.2 0.5 1,034,485 51,226
KQ 16 40 6.4 0.5 1,034,485 45,534
77 6 30 1.8 0.8 1,034,485 20,490
88 1 40 0.4 1 265,000 1,458
99 6 55 3.3 0.2 1,034,485 9,391
TT 6 70 4.2 0.2 1,034,485 11,953
JJ 6 80 4.8 0.2 1,034,485 13,660
QQ 6 90 5.4 0.2 1,034,485 15,368
KK 6 100 6 0.2 1,034,485 17,075
AA 6 100 6 0.2 1,034,485 17,075
72.7

Win If Call 396,754 (sum of AveAmt won
Have if fold 504,485

hope math is good.

Also, I think you have enough chips to fold other hands.

FWIW, I push preflop here, first time.

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 06:03 PM

Please push preflop, and I still think you have to call here

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 07:51 PM

With your stack and those blinds I would just move all in.
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#6 timwakefield

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 07:54 PM

I'm a little surprised you guys say to push here, since my M is over 7.

On the other hand, I did make the call...
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#7 mikeysong

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 08:32 PM

and the result?

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 10:28 PM

QUOTE (timwakefield @ Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 7:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm a little surprised you guys say to push here, since my M is over 7.

On the other hand, I did make the call...


yeah, I got so in the math, I forgot about how the payouts are so skewed.
I'd call here too, even if not +cEV.

for me it's a push preflop because I'm calling a push anyway if I had raised that much
Remeberr that post I made asking if it's ever right to call a push and not push, even when you expect to be a dog..for pot odds, etc. Well, this was not one of those cases.

Unless you were looking to set up a 50/50 or worse chance to dbl up, then pushing is better, imo. If you can fold here, then I think you can argue for a raise (maybe less of one)

Which reminds me, your preflop raise took the fold option away, imo. Regardless of what my math above said. (I probably screwed up by giving you 50/50 instead of 55/45 vs overs)

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 11:20 PM

I guess the only point for not pushing is that if there are multiple raises behind me I'm folding.
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Posted 23 July 2006 - 11:25 PM

QUOTE (timwakefield @ Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess the only point for not pushing is that if there are multiple raises behind me I'm folding.


do you think you should've bet less preflop?

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 12:27 AM

QUOTE (timwakefield @ Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess the only point for not pushing is that if there are multiple raises behind me I'm folding.


yeah, i guess that a good reason to just R/CAI. Still Id just push this. The odds of 2 players behind you waking up with big hands is slim

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Posted 25 July 2006 - 05:05 PM

QUOTE (timwakefield @ Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, 8:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm a little surprised you guys say to push here, since my M is over 7.

On the other hand, I did make the call...


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#13 timwakefield

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Posted 25 July 2006 - 06:54 PM

QUOTE (kidprodigy08 @ Tuesday, July 25th, 2006, 5:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and................



He had aces.
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