Missed Bet Or Am I Behind?

[Spence 0]

Seat 2: Lucas1967 ($97.45 in chips)Seat 3: Soup2Nuts ($181.40 in chips)Seat 5: Symbolic0 ($254.60 in chips) [ KC,KS ]Seat 7: asheron71 ($94.95 in chips)Seat 8: will OU ($30.30 in chips)Seat 9: Goofy_ ($41 in chips)Seat 10: Typingsux ($61.80 in chips)ANTES/BLINDSGoofy_ posts blind ($1), Typingsux folds, Lucas1967 posts blind ($2).PRE-FLOPSoup2Nuts folds, Symbolic0 bets $4, asheron71 folds, will OU folds, Goofy_ folds, Lucas1967 calls $2.FLOP [board cards 3S,4H,6C ]Lucas1967 bets $2, Symbolic0 bets $4, Lucas1967 bets $4, Symbolic0 calls $2.TURN [board cards 3S,4H,6C,7H ]Lucas1967 bets $4, Symbolic0 calls $4.RIVER [board cards 3S,4H,6C,7H,QC ]Lucas1967 checks, Symbolic0 checks.

[Zach6668 513]

I would cap the flop, call down if he leads the turn, or bet out if he checks to you.

[Actuary 3]

if you are not capping the flop, then Raise the Turn.call down if 3-bet on turn.

[roadhawg 0]

like they said above raise the turn so you know exactly where you are at. i am guessing he had 99 or 67 something liek that?

[Actuary 3]

like they said above raise the turn so you know exactly where you are at. i am guessing he had 99 or 67 something liek that?

no, it's a raise for value, brought about by our deception to not cap the flop.most of the time I cap flop and see it down from there if he leads turn.We're not raisng to see where we are.I mean, are we folding to a 3 bet?

[roadhawg 0]

no you're not folding to a 3 bet but you at least know a little more where you stand. he probably has you beat and you have to catch something on the river to win if he rasies and if he just calls you most likely have the best hand and can get more money or save money on the river

[Actuary 3]

I guess I'm not sure of the benefits of knowing.I'll know at showdown.If we aren't folding (and I think it's an argument to fold the river UI as two pair make up a lot of villais hands), then what is the info for?and hence if the info is not useful, we should stop using it as a reason to raise the flop and for sure the turn.

[Zach6668 513]

I've said it once, I'll say it again:Raising to know where you stand is a LEAK.

[Knight_Owl 0]

1. cap flop2. Raise Turn3. Bet River he CHECKED TO U!! (Unless you seriously think Villian is going to check raise you)you say your good post flop? I C that you r

[Zach6668 513]

1. cap flop2. Raise Turn3. Bet River he CHECKED TO U!! (Unless you seriously think Villian is going to check raise you)you say your good post flop? I C that you r

There is no way I'm raising the turn if I cap the flop, and he leads into me.

[Actuary 3]

There is no way I'm raising the turn if I cap the flop, and he leads into me.

Exactly.that's where you use info..that you got from value capping the flop.

[dimseven 0]

Cap flop.Bet the river.Dont raise the turn. I don't like not capping flop/raising the turn as an option on that board.

[Knight_Owl 0]

Exactly.that's where you use info..that you got from value capping the flop.

If I read correctly it was 3 Betted on flop righ? If So I Raise Turn!Villian most likely has a PP 9-9+ The River Check was a Huge Clue! That Villian had something like 9-9 or 10-10 when that player Checked when the Q came in.

[Actuary 3]

If I read correctly it was 3 Betted on flop righ? If So I Raise Turn!Villian most likely has a PP 9-9+ The River Check was a Huge Clue! That Villian had something like 9-9 or 10-10 when that player Checked when the Q came in.

Zach said IF flop is capped and Villain still leads Turn, we should not raise. Ok? That's different that if we did not cap. And I'm with Dim and Zach, capping flop is much better than not.Using the River action to say that's why we are ahead on turn is seriosuly bad strategy etiquette. Use what you know at the time. BB has 99+ a lot here? Well, usually many of thoese hands 3 bet preflop, so based on Preflop, Flop, and Turn, convince me this is 99+ more often than: 66/33/44/64s/77/88/55... go ahead.

[Knight_Owl 0]

Zach said IF flop is capped and Villain still leads Turn, we should not raise. Ok? That's different that if we did not cap. And I'm with Dim and Zach, capping flop is much better than not.Using the River action to say that's why we are ahead on turn is seriosuly bad strategy etiquette. Use what you know at the time. BB has 99+ a lot here? Well, usually many of thoese hands 3 bet preflop, so based on Preflop, Flop, and Turn, convince me this is 99+ more often than: 66/33/44/64s/77/88/55... go ahead.

So if Villian caps ragged flop its always a set since he wasn't 3 betted pre-flop vs. Heros K-K?!? Is that what your applying? Therefore playing the K-K passivly on Turn and River?

I would cap the flop, call down if he leads the turn, or bet out if he checks to you.

Since your following on Zachs advice 100%. He also states to bet out if he checks to you. You still going to accept the checked river? Or simply contradicting yourself?

[Actuary 3]

dude, read.1. I listed several non-set possibilities for villain2. it was not capped3. I never said checking river was goodRiver bet if checked to is the easy part, if c/r'd folding is the tough part.

[dimseven 0]

Villian's on the BB. He could have anthing and giving hero action instead of letting the hand go uncontested.

[Knight_Owl 0]

dude, read.1. I listed several non-set possibilities for villain2. it was not capped3. I never said checking river was goodRiver bet if checked to is the easy part, if c/r'd folding is the tough part.

"dont get your panties in a twist!" jst had 2 say it!And I finally understand what your saying Hopefully anyone received something good from this post. I know I have Keep posting! N' Keep Replyig!