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[LONEWOLF]

last night on Stars was a little extreme. I am probably the biggest proponet of Online Poker, and I really get annoyed with all of the haters saying "online poker is rigged". I truly believe it isn't, and with making a part time living off of it, I just cannot entertain this view. Last night, however, in one tourney the same guy shown down the following hands in this order. 2nd hand of the tournament he takes a big pot after a Q flops and someone paired their Q (A kicker). He turns over AA. Fair enough. 2 hands later, he holds JJ and the flop comes a J, he fills up on turn and eliminates that same AQ guy. Very next hand, he again has AA, goes all in, no one calls he shows. Not sure how many hands later he eliminates another guy with KK. I get involved in a pot with him and double up when my AJ pairs the A and he calls my all in with A6. Shortly after I am in with him again, hit top pair, slow play (good thing) he has 77 and flopped a set. Next hand his QQ beats my TT for 1,000. So I start typing, congrats, PokerStars is giving you this tourney. He then knocks another guy out when his AA(3rd time, not even 20 mins into tourney) beats the guys KK. Finally there are 3 of us left I get JT. ON the button I raise, he calls. Flop is JT4. He bets, I just call. Turn is a rag, he bets I re-raise all in, he calls instantly and turns over...JJ. LOL. Another 4 on the river for yet another boat. All in all, this guy shown down 5 full houses (with 3 having him holding a PP) and all the rest of those PP's I spoke of. Now as I said earlier, I am a huge proponet of online Poker, but this disturbed me. Tournament was over in less than 35 mins, and we could not have seen more than 60 hands. Does this happen in live poker?-PUNNISHERL*

[Sidrat]

Well, I've seen far too many full houses occur in an hour of online poker playing.But then we are playing more hands than would be normal so it's normal we'll see more of the same type of winning poker hands. There are only six.I've even won a pot just because I held an Ace and that was the highest card.Crazy things happen in life and poker isn't that different. Suck it up and hope you're sitting in the golden chair next tournament.I believe in the Random Number Generators that are used on the internet from everything to poker to black jack and roulette. Providing it's not a pseudo-random number generator I don't have a problem. It should be that any remaining cards in the deck have the same probability of being dealt. But then there's no real way of knowing if a generator is stacked so it brings more action to the table for bigger pots (and of course bigger rakes).Try it with a real pack of cards, deal ten hands and put the next five cards out in the middle, see how many full house's occur. Good little excercise I think.

[LONEWOLF]

that we see way 2 many hands, and thus are going to take, give and see more bad beats. I also (as stated earlier) am a firm believer in the radomness of online poker. I just thought that this was a bit outrageous. L*

[brant25]

I have seen something a little similar, but not online. I was playing 4-8 at an Indian Casino and this one maniac would raise every pot. In less than an hour he won with six full houses. None of the full houses were with big pocket pairs. He was getting sixes full of twos, threes full of sevens, tens full of fours.

[LONEWOLF]

for that last post, as that is all I was really looking for...assurance. I do not play live too often, and therefore had nothing to compare this too. I was amazed at this guy's hands. Your post has put my mind at a bit of ease. L*

[BadVoodoo]

First of all be glad it was just a tourney, if you'd run into a run like that in an NL cash game the stakes & losses would have been much, much higher. I've seen similar runs in online NL cash games and the damage can be huge since too many people refuse to believe someone can have good cards that often in such a short period of time. I have played so many more hands online than in B&M there's no comparison about what I've seen in each environment. However, I'll point out a fairly famous hand in poker circles in the 2003 WSOP that didn't make the television. Remember Sammy Farha? The way he made such a big stack initially was when his openended straight and flush draw rivered the straight flush on a paired board and he QUADRUPLED up over the nut flush, a FH and QUADS. So in a similar vein you could say that Binions tried like hell to give him the 2003 WSOP main event. Seriously, if you run Pokertracker or any other stat tracking application you'll see the online #'s even out, I've got over 50k handson Stars, 200k on Party and another 60k or so on UB and there isn't anything out of whack on any of them.BadVoodoo

[eric1971]

I have played in home games where one person could not lose all night. One time this guy took every dollar at the table (6 handed). Must have had six or seven boats during the night. Had quads to my boat once. Every other hand he was dragging a major pot. Everyone started playing back at him thinking, "He can't have a hand every time!" It just made things worse. On the other hand, I have won a SNG in under 30 minutes before on Empire. I kept getting great hands and everyone was calling me.

[AVG]

I've had rushes like that happen to me before, a few times. I've played a side game once online and I had a pocket pair or flopped 2 pair about 10 straight hands, and won every one of them. Everyone at the table was accusing me of rigging the site to give me good hands every time. Also I've won a 10 person Sitng0 before within 13 minutes.And don't go saying I have amazing luck because I don't most of the time. Usually I will get nothing for 7 days, then get the whole weeks worth of luck within an hour.

[Suited_Up]

Well, I can't say I've ever seen something quite that extreme... But I guess it's possible... I do agree that online sites are totally legit... and I have seen a good amount of live hands while hosting a few tournaments... and wierd hands to happen, but it's at a much slower pace, so you don't really notice. But I was paying live, and saw 2 quad Aces within about 45 minutes of each other. And the hand with AJ, and he had JJ... Read my blog, the link is at the bottom... the newest post is pretty much about that situation.

[maxone22]

I've seen that happen at pokerroom numerous times. A few times its even been me that couldn't miss. I've never thought of keeping stats on it, but I'd say roughly one in ten games, it will just be a blowout.When I first started playing online, I didn't think it was rigged, but I did wonder if it was set to deliver "bigger hands" if that makes sense. Too encourage betting and speed up the tournaments.

[BPV]

eric1971 said:

I have played in home games where one person could not lose all night.   One time this guy took every dollar at the table (6 handed). .

ive done this 3 out of the last 4 times ive played. Everyone typically gets really mad at me because I always end up with all the chips and the money.

[the_stein]

It's called having a hot seat, once I entered a 10+1 tourney on party poker cause I was on tilt, so I just wanted to screw around and loosen up, I knocked out every person in 15 hands, and I wasn't even trying to win, I kept going all in, being a huge underdog and winning or winning every coinflip. Also had AA KK and QQ at least once each, those held up no doubt.

[Metaphysician]

Playing low stakes limit hold em cash games I've had similar runs of cards.Once I had JJ JJ JJ 99 AQo AKs and 55 in that order, in a row. Over the course of the next20 hands I flopped two flushes and a straight. And ended up losing money because I played them poorly

[VirginiaGent]

These sites have such a cash cow to preserve, I really can not rationalize that they would jeapordize it by not having reliable means to randomize. Random doesn't mean that incredible runs of cards won't come, it just means they are random.Enjoy the rushes of great cards.

[Dick Danger]

A couple of nights ago at The Orleans in less than 90 minuts with three different dealers quads hit three times. :shock: