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[KingAustin]

I was playing .25-.50 NL and I have about $15. I get 9 T and I call a preflop raise of $1. Flop comes 2 4 6 . He bets $2.50, I re-raise all in, he calls. He has pocket Queens, no diamond. Turn is Q and river is Q I just got beat by a (self censored) IDIOT!!! I dont see how these people do it. No matter how well I play, I get sucked out on. I guess I'll have to go with the Phil Hellmuth quote, "If there wasn't luck involved, I would win everyone." I had 97.1% chance to win with that flop.Then they try to talk trash like "you got owned!!!" If only someone would invent a monitor which allows you to stab someone through the screen..... there would be a lot of dead online poker players.

[otnemem]

He probably assumed you were just as bad as all the other low NL players and put you on the naked ace flush draw. I don't think his call is that bad...

[KingAustin]

otnemem said:

He probably assumed you were just as bad as all the other low NL players and put you on the naked ace flush draw. I don't think his call is that bad...

I hope the fish dont think I'm bad (ego talking) but then I do want them to so they will play hands that I have them totally dominated on. Apparently it didnt do any good here.

[KingAustin]

XXEddie said:

you called a raise with T9s and HE is the bad player.....:wall:

3 or 4 handed, I've been at the table with him for quite a few hands and have seen him raise $5 with Qx,Kx,Ax(x>4) Obviously he's not a good player. Dont even try to say my play was bad. It's shorthanded, you call a small raise with 9TD.

[otnemem]

XXEddie said:

you called a raise with T9s and HE is the bad player.....:wall:

There's definitely nothing wrong with calling a raise with 10-9s in a shorthanded no limit game. You can call with this at a full ring, if the situation is right... Still, he made a bad call with his queens, but not necessarily the wrong call. Know what I mean?

[Swift_Psycho]

KingAustin said:

XXEddie said:

you called a raise with T9s and HE is the bad player.....:wall:

3 or 4 handed, I've been at the table with him for quite a few hands and have seen him raise $5 with Qx,Kx,Ax(x>4) Obviously he's not a good player. Dont even try to say my play was bad. It's shorthanded, you call a small raise with 9TD.

I don't think calling a raise with 10-9 sooooted is that bad pre-flop, but I just wanted to point something out. Saying that "It's shorthanded" hurts your argument because there is less of a chance that the implied odds of this hand will come into effect in a shorthanded game. So while I agree that calling standard pre-flop raise with 10-9s is okay, your argument isn't a convincing one. I also don't think his call was that bad. He certainly got lucky, but I don't think the play was horrendoes.

[dominiksdad]

I really don't get some people :roll: Don't blame him because he did exactly what you wanted him to do - call when he was a huge dog.If you want something to blame then blame the alignment of the planets or something like that cos this is just a case of real bad luck.

[Abbaddabba]

If you're playing 3 or 4 handed, you're bitching for no reason. With only one person seeing the flop, he had no good reason to believe that there was a made flush out there, especially considering that you bet it the way you did.From his perspective: He could have figured you to be a typical low stakes idiot who goes all in with nut flush draws. After all - if you had the flush, why would you bet more than double the pot? That suggests you dont want callers. If that's the case, with over pockets and two people seeing the flop, he thinks he's ahead. If i was in his position, i'd be more concerned about two pairs or a set than i would be of the flush.From your perspective:Any draw that he could be on that has the potential to beat you, you would WANT him calling. Betting more than double the pot decreases the probability of him calling significantly. You don't want to make his draw cheap, but you do want him to call. If you were betting absurdly high to make him think that you dont want callers (hence getting him to call), then congratulations. I dont think that was your intent nor do i think it would be an appropriate strategy, seeing as this is low stakes and people dont bother to read into plays to that degree.You seem to have played it just like him. The thought pattern was "ive got good cards, time to go all in".

[Abbaddabba]

Oh, and there's nothing wrong with calling 2x the BB with 9/10 suited, unless you're under the gun with 9 aggressive players to act, or something similar.

[Emmser]

I had a similar hand in a tournament, I flopped the nut flush so I tried slow playing it and ended up running into quad queens! :shock:Take a look: PokerStars Game #1399633403: Tournament #6280618, Hold'em No Limit - Level II(15/30) - 2005/03/22 - 20:17:48 (ET)Table '6280618 6' Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 1: gobears (1360 in chips) Seat 2: Emms (2315 in chips) Seat 3: DeNuts1 (1230 in chips) Seat 4: Trancefuzer (760 in chips) Seat 6: 1BigAceHole (3050 in chips) Seat 7: IAmAStripper (1510 in chips) Seat 8: roger44 (1215 in chips) Seat 9: Roggg (890 in chips) gobears: posts small blind 15Emms: posts big blind 30*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Emms [As 5s]DeNuts1: folds Trancefuzer: folds 1BigAceHole: folds IAmAStripper: folds roger44: raises 150 to 180Roggg: folds gobears: folds Emms: calls 150*** FLOP *** [9s Qs 2s]Emms: checks JaysonWeber [observer] said, "gobears wassup brutha"roger44: bets 270Emms: calls 270*** TURN *** [9s Qs 2s] [Qd]Emms: checks roger44: bets 210Emms: calls 210*** RIVER *** [9s Qs 2s Qd] [Jh]Emms: bets 630roger44: calls 555 and is all-in*** SHOW DOWN ***Emms: shows [As 5s] (a flush, Ace high)roger44: shows [Qh Qc] (four of a kind, Queens)roger44 collected 2445 from potI guess that will teach me to slow play!

[Swift_Psycho]

Emmser said:

I had a similar hand in a tournament, I flopped the nut flush so I tried slow playing it and ended up running into quad queens! :shock:Take a look: PokerStars Game #1399633403: Tournament #6280618, Hold'em No Limit - Level II(15/30) - 2005/03/22 - 20:17:48 (ET)Table '6280618 6' Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 1: gobears (1360 in chips) Seat 2: Emms (2315 in chips) Seat 3: DeNuts1 (1230 in chips) Seat 4: Trancefuzer (760 in chips) Seat 6: 1BigAceHole (3050 in chips) Seat 7: IAmAStripper (1510 in chips) Seat 8: roger44 (1215 in chips) Seat 9: Roggg (890 in chips) gobears: posts small blind 15Emms: posts big blind 30*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Emms [As 5s]DeNuts1: folds Trancefuzer: folds 1BigAceHole: folds IAmAStripper: folds roger44: raises 150 to 180Roggg: folds gobears: folds Emms: calls 150*** FLOP *** [9s Qs 2s]Emms: checks JaysonWeber [observer] said, "gobears wassup brutha"roger44: bets 270Emms: calls 270*** TURN *** [9s Qs 2s] [Qd]Emms: checks roger44: bets 210Emms: calls 210*** RIVER *** [9s Qs 2s Qd] [Jh]Emms: bets 630roger44: calls 555 and is all-in*** SHOW DOWN ***Emms: shows [As 5s] (a flush, Ace high)roger44: shows [Qh Qc] (four of a kind, Queens)roger44 collected 2445 from potI guess that will teach me to slow play!

Meh, there isn't really anything you can do anyway. Even if you move in on the flop, there is a decent chance he calls.

[jayistheman]

you bet your flushhe didnt believe youthe bet screamed bluff/semi bluff... you got what you wanted (a call) and got outdrawn.

[Emmser]

Your right, I guess this is one of those time you just have to say."Oh well, thats poker!"

[creepy20]

i've been saying, " oh well, thats poker " a lot lately.in the last two days my big fulls have been beat by straight flushes,my nut straight got beat by runner runner to make somebody an f-ing full house. the only time one of my big hands have held up was when I flopped qaud 6's...but only won 2 dollars off of it because thats all the guy had left...its been a rough week