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PokerStars Game #1356082162: Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/03/14 - 16:56:05 (ET) Table 'Jena' Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: Wsox08 ($10.25 in chips) Seat 2: mdesjard ($99.25 in chips) Seat 3: Rayb27 ($106.25 in chips) Seat 4: rangers28 ($27.75 in chips) Seat 5: huskerfan41 ($23.25 in chips) Seat 6: snikad ($49 in chips) snikad: posts small blind $0.50 Wsox08: posts big blind $1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Wsox08 [8h As] mdesjard: folds Rayb27: calls $1 rangers28: calls $1 huskerfan41: calls $1 snikad: calls $0.50 Wsox08: checks *** FLOP *** [8d Ad 4s] snikad: checks Wsox08: checks Rayb27: checks rangers28: checks huskerfan41: bets $1 snikad: calls $1 Wsox08: calls $1 Rayb27: calls $1 rangers28: folds *** TURN *** [8d Ad 4s] [Qc] snikad: checks Wsox08: checks Rayb27: bets $2 huskerfan41: calls $2 snikad: folds Wsox08: raises $2 to $4 Rayb27: calls $2 huskerfan41: folds *** RIVER *** [8d Ad 4s Qc] [Qs] Wsox08: bets $2 Rayb27: raises $2 to $4 Wsox08: calls $2 *** SHOW DOWN *** Rayb27: shows [Qh Kd] (three of a kind, Queens) Wsox08: shows [8h As] (two pair, Aces and Queens) Rayb27 collected $26 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $27 | Rake $1 Board [8d Ad 4s Qc Qs] Seat 1: Wsox08 (big blind) showed [8h As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens Seat 2: mdesjard folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Rayb27 showed [Qh Kd] and won ($26) with three of a kind, Queens Seat 4: rangers28 folded on the Flop Seat 5: huskerfan41 (button) folded on the Turn Seat 6: snikad (small blind) folded on the Turn I know I made some mistakes on this hand. I just wanted to see if someone else would point them out to me. I hadn't been at the table long, but from what I saw I think he would have called even if i bet the flop...

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Betting the flop is pretty much mandatory here. Two pair isn't a hand to slow play. Especially with a potential flush draw. Heck, even a check raise after the flop might have been good depending on your reads as most loose players play Ax and would bet here. I couldn't imagine someone calling 2 bets cold without even two overcards or a decent draw. Ok, I take that back, he still might have called.

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Betting the flop is pretty much mandatory here.  Two pair isn't a hand to slow play.  Especially with a potential flush draw.  Heck, even a check raise after the flop might have been good depending on your reads as most loose players play Ax and would bet here.   I couldn't imagine someone calling 2 bets cold without even two overcards or a decent draw.  Ok, I take that back, he still might have called.
I'm totally on board with these comments. If you expect someone will bet based on past experience with these players, check-raise; if you're not sure, bet out. Even if you do get some crazies calling two bets cold after your check-raise, you're just getting more value into the pot when you're almost certainly ahead. Can't ask for more than that.
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PokerStars Game #1356082162: Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/03/14 - 16:56:05 (ET) Table 'Jena' Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: Wsox08 ($10.25 in chips) Seat 2: mdesjard ($99.25 in chips) Seat 3: Rayb27 ($106.25 in chips) Seat 4: rangers28 ($27.75 in chips) Seat 5: huskerfan41 ($23.25 in chips) Seat 6: snikad ($49 in chips) snikad: posts small blind $0.50 Wsox08: posts big blind $1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Wsox08 [8h As] mdesjard: folds Rayb27: calls $1 rangers28: calls $1 huskerfan41: calls $1 snikad: calls $0.50 Wsox08: checks *** FLOP *** [8d Ad 4s] snikad: checks Wsox08: checks Rayb27: checks rangers28: checks huskerfan41: bets $1 snikad: calls $1 Wsox08: calls $1 Rayb27: calls $1 rangers28: folds don't slowplay with a two flush on the board, just bet out, you'll get callers*** TURN *** [8d Ad 4s] [Qc] snikad: checks Wsox08: checks Rayb27: bets $2 huskerfan41: calls $2 snikad: folds Wsox08: raises $2 to $4 Rayb27: calls $2 huskerfan41: folds okay, I guess. This would've been more effective if you had bet the flop and then did this*** RIVER *** [8d Ad 4s Qc] [Qs] Wsox08: bets $2 Rayb27: raises $2 to $4 Wsox08: calls $2 *** SHOW DOWN *** the guy got lucky, what can you sayfirst off, don't post results, they affect how people will talk about your play as opposed to actually breaking down what you did wrong. I'll comment in bold

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