Kq Hand #2
Started by GodOfEntropy, Jul 05 2006 05:50 PM
13 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 05 July 2006 - 05:50 PM
UTG +1 is 35/2/0.7, limps with TT and K4 - seen him sandbag with overpairs
SB is 19/12/(no aggression factor registered)
MP1 is 24/7/1.2
I cannot recall a hand where I have been more confused.
I raise a couple of limpers, get cold-called, then check-raised with 6 players in the pot.
I flop TP/2nd kicker, it's checked to me and I get check-raised.
I turn top 2 pair, and it's 2 bets back to me with a board 3 to a broadway straight, and of course the possibility of a set. I think I am ahead of UTG+1 here but there are some serious reverse implied odds here with the SB still to act.
Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
9 players
Converter
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with [Kh] [Qd]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 3-bets, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.
Flop: [7c] [Jh] [Qs] (18SB, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB raises, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, Hero calls, Button calls.
Turn: [Kc] (13BB, 4 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero folds, 2 folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to UTG+1.
Results:
Final pot: 15BB
SB is 19/12/(no aggression factor registered)
MP1 is 24/7/1.2
I cannot recall a hand where I have been more confused.
I raise a couple of limpers, get cold-called, then check-raised with 6 players in the pot.
I flop TP/2nd kicker, it's checked to me and I get check-raised.
I turn top 2 pair, and it's 2 bets back to me with a board 3 to a broadway straight, and of course the possibility of a set. I think I am ahead of UTG+1 here but there are some serious reverse implied odds here with the SB still to act.
Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
9 players
Converter
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with [Kh] [Qd]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 3-bets, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.
Flop: [7c] [Jh] [Qs] (18SB, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB raises, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, Hero calls, Button calls.
Turn: [Kc] (13BB, 4 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero folds, 2 folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to UTG+1.
Results:
Final pot: 15BB
#2
Posted 05 July 2006 - 11:20 PM
How many hands on UTG and SB?
I have a feeling that you dont have many hands... seeing as SB bet/folded the turn; an indication of someone with a high AF.
UTG sounds just like an overall shitty player and he probably does a lot of stupid, erratic things.
I have a feeling that you dont have many hands... seeing as SB bet/folded the turn; an indication of someone with a high AF.
UTG sounds just like an overall shitty player and he probably does a lot of stupid, erratic things.
#3
Posted 06 July 2006 - 06:09 AM
QUOTE (Abbaddabba @ Thursday, July 6th, 2006, 2:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How many hands on UTG and SB?
I have a feeling that you dont have many hands... seeing as SB bet/folded the turn; an indication of someone with a high AF.
UTG sounds just like an overall shitty player and he probably does a lot of stupid, erratic things.
I have a feeling that you dont have many hands... seeing as SB bet/folded the turn; an indication of someone with a high AF.
UTG sounds just like an overall shitty player and he probably does a lot of stupid, erratic things.
huh?
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#4
Posted 06 July 2006 - 08:59 AM
I wouldn't have folded in this position but then again I am not sitting at that table and maybe you were picking up on something that he/she has been doing.
What did you put the guy on trips? Maybe a weak GSSD. That's about all I see on the board.
Besides what will you lose to stay in it? One bet? C'mon...
DM.
What did you put the guy on trips? Maybe a weak GSSD. That's about all I see on the board.
Besides what will you lose to stay in it? One bet? C'mon...
DM.
#5
Posted 06 July 2006 - 09:45 AM
UTG must have 77 or A10 there to raise.He could be raising with QJ or KJ too.
I am calling anyway.
I am calling anyway.
#6
Posted 06 July 2006 - 12:26 PM
QUOTE (brvheart @ Thursday, July 6th, 2006, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
huh?
Read this:
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...showtopic=12767
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#7
Posted 06 July 2006 - 12:40 PM
Calling and folding this turn are pretty close. You're getting 16-2 on your call, so even if he has the straight, you're drawing live to the top full house. However, I think you're looking at another two pair more often than a broadway, so calling probably edges out folding in this case, but it is close.
GB
GB
#8
Posted 06 July 2006 - 02:39 PM
The stats are generated from a very small sample, maybe 40 hands, so they are pretty close to worthless. Besides UTG+1 who I was in a few hands with heads-up prior to this, probably a better idea to consider all players as unknowns.
#9
Posted 06 July 2006 - 02:49 PM
Then it's definitely a call.
Especially since MP1 probably had 1010 making A10 and 910 a whole lot less likely.
Especially since MP1 probably had 1010 making A10 and 910 a whole lot less likely.
#10
Posted 06 July 2006 - 02:53 PM
Horrible turn fold. I would 3-bet before I folded. Calling is probably best though.
BTW, I hope youre capping pf if you had KQs.
BTW, I hope youre capping pf if you had KQs.
#11
Posted 06 July 2006 - 04:20 PM
QUOTE (screech @ Thursday, July 6th, 2006, 2:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Horrible turn fold. I would 3-bet before I folded. Calling is probably best though.
BTW, I hope youre capping pf if you had KQs.
BTW, I hope youre capping pf if you had KQs.
this is what I was looking for - if I had my head on straight I think I would have raised both the flop and turn.
#12
Posted 07 July 2006 - 07:04 AM
QUOTE (GodOfEntropy @ Friday, July 7th, 2006, 1:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this is what I was looking for - if I had my head on straight I think I would have raised both the flop and turn.
Flop maybe, turn definately not.
Call the turn
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#13
Posted 08 July 2006 - 07:55 PM
nice fold im pretty sure. 4 players like that, the waqy it went somebody is drawing to a hand. nice fold and read of the situation
#14
Posted 14 July 2006 - 12:33 PM
QUOTE (cu in 4years Dan @ Saturday, July 8th, 2006, 7:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nice fold im pretty sure. 4 players like that, the waqy it went somebody is drawing to a hand. nice fold and read of the situation
you don't seem too bright
we have top two pair here.
bad fold.
I can't add anything.
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