Value Bets (25nl)

[mkeller3086 0]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: Bet The Pot)saw flop|saw showdownBB ($10)UTG ($11.31)MP ($13.90)CO ($22.28)Hero ($30.60)SB ($24.90)Preflop: Hero is Button with [Ac], [Kd]. SB posts a blind of $0.10. 2 folds, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.2, SB (poster) calls $1.10, 1 fold, CO calls $0.95.Flop: ($3.85) [Kh], [Jh], [3c] (3 players)SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2, CO folds.Turn: ($7.85) [3h] (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5.River: ($17.85) [8s] (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $13, theres some hands where i have trouble deciding if there is value in a river bet or i am just dumping my chips off. i'll start with this hand.

[fckthis 0]

Whats read (if any) on villian here?BTW, pot the flop. The rest of the betting seems consistent and right. Stats on the player would help, because you would know if he was a NIT or a calling station, and then you can assess whether betting the river is right or not.

[mkeller3086 0]

BTW, pot the flop.

Say we missed the flop and want to make a continuation bet...Do we also bet the pot? Because when I make a continuation bet I usually bet 1/2 to 2/3 of the pot so when I flop a good hand I try to make those bets about the same as to not give away the strength of my hand.

[fckthis 0]

The general consensus here is pot any flop, when you raise PF, and c-betting the flop, regardless of how hard you hit it.

[krup24 0]

Betting 2/3 of pot is fine for a C-BetThe hand looks good

[Jordan 1]

The general consensus here is pot any flop, when you raise PF, and c-betting the flop, regardless of how hard you hit it.

meh, I dont like potting every flop.i'll usually bet 3/4 the pot, or a little more.my standard raise at 400nl is to 14, if i get it hu with the BB, there will be $30 in the pot, I'll usually bet $25 on most flops, but sometimes it's $20-$25...rarely $30..point is, they'll fold for $20 usually just as often when they fold for $30, but also, they'll call for $20-25 with tp..just as they'll call a $30 bet...it varies, sometimes, from opponent to opponent..but potting everyflop can get expensive...if you are playing in certain games...i used to bet the pot all the time when i played 50 and 100nl, but i kinda changed that a little bit when i moved up..as for this hand..i dont mind the bet, or a check behind...at this limit, you'll get called down with a lot of weaker hands, and rarely raised...but also, you'll rarely get called here when you move up if you aren't beat...so at this limit i'm more than ok with a bet..but as you move up you'll have to evaluate your opponents a bit more in depth...- Jordan

[Scott3705 0]

Shed, I'd say it's usually good to make this types of value bets. Kinda weird tho... as most people said, i think your flop is too small, but your river bet is bigger in relation to the pot than the flop bet. If you're going to value bet these types of hands, i'd say you'd usually have to bet 1/2 pot and a little up. Only hand that can really call your bet is kq because you're bet's expensive. Something smaller might get more volume of calls to compensate for the reduced payoff when you find kq here.

[FOOSE1 0]

I don't really like the value bet on this particular hand. Yeah the flop bet could've been bigger, but you also have a guy calling a good size turn bet with a flush on the board. He could be setting you up for a check raise on the river with a made flush. Either way he called preflop raise, flop bet and turn bet. With a flush on the board I would've probably checked the river in this situation. The only hand to call you here (or raise you) is one that has you beat.

[NoSup4U 0]

meh, I dont like potting every flop...but potting everyflop can get expensive...if you are playing in certain games...i used to bet the pot all the time when i played 50 and 100nl, but i kinda changed that a little bit when i moved up..- Jordan

Exact same here.

[iggymcfly 0]

Yeah, if you play aggressive and you play 6 max, potting every flop is a bad idea. I used to only bet half the pot which was a little small, and I find that I like betting 2/3 of the pot now. It allows you room to maneuver on the later streets, either growing the pot a little or keeping it manageable depending on your holding, but it's not so big that you can't gain value by CBing a lot of marginal situations.As for the hand, you can go either way on value-betting the river, but if you do, don't make it this big. This kind of bet can get a lot of the hands you're beating to fold while really juicing the pot when you're behind. Either check (if you're at all suspicious of a flush) or bet between $5 and $10.

[mkeller3086 0]

Shed, I'd say it's usually good to make this types of value bets. Kinda weird tho... as most people said, i think your flop is too small, but your river bet is bigger in relation to the pot than the flop bet. If you're going to value bet these types of hands, i'd say you'd usually have to bet 1/2 pot and a little up. Only hand that can really call your bet is kq because you're bet's expensive. Something smaller might get more volume of calls to compensate for the reduced payoff when you find kq here.

i agree the river bet was too largesometimes i just get greedy and figure that if my opponent called a decent bet on the turn with a made hand then they will call the river as wellif they were on the draw they weren't calling anyways

I don't really like the value bet on this particular hand. Yeah the flop bet could've been bigger, but you also have a guy calling a good size turn bet with a flush on the board. He could be setting you up for a check raise on the river with a made flush. Either way he called preflop raise, flop bet and turn bet. With a flush on the board I would've probably checked the river in this situation. The only hand to call you here (or raise you) is one that has you beat.

i disagree that the only hands that call me here are ones that have me beatif you are familiar with 25nl then you should know that many opponents will call you here with a weaker king, some opponents will call with a jack, and others will even call with some f'd up ****