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[DanielNegreanu]

In this section it seems we often end up having religious debates about this or that. So on that note, I'd love to share with you all the book that changed my life forever. A Case for Christ was written by an atheist who decided to put the life of Jesus "on trial". It's full of excellent information. I was never one to leap blindly into a faith "just because" so this book was extremely influencial in my life. The book provides some amazing facts and viewpoints, and asks all of the tough questions. It just blew me away and I'd like to invite any of you to read this book for yourself. If you would like a FREE copy just send me an e-mail at daniel@fullcontactpoker.com and I'll have one sent to your house totally free of charge. I'd especially like to offer this invitation to any atheists that post here. Not to shove it down their throat by any means, but just to give them an educated perspective on why there are so many believers in this country.

[FOOSE1]

Daniel, I respect you as a poker player (for obvious reasons) . . . but I respect you even more as a person. As a fellow Christian I admire that you are willing to take the time, effort and money to do this.

[theresa113]

Daniel,Out of curiousity, what were your beliefs before reading this book? Have you gone from one extreme to the other? Are you more middle of the road? Just wondering if you will share. Thanks!

[shydie]

another good one "Case for Faith" written by same dood, lee strobel. (i pretty sure-been a while)if you haven't read it, pick it up.

[Project 2501]

theresa113 said:

Daniel,Out of curiousity, what were your beliefs before reading this book? Have you gone from one extreme to the other? Are you more middle of the road? Just wondering if you will share. Thanks!

i second that request.thanks for your time.

[maddog2030]

DanielNegreanu said:

I'd especially like to offer this invitation to any atheists that post here. Not to shove it down their throat by any means, but just to give them an educated perspective on why there are so many believers in this country.

Take a look at http://home.earthlin...RIST/0INDEX.HTM. I don't expect it to change your opinion, but it does bring up some good points if you wade through the nitpicking.But anyway, my point here is that there's bigger issues than whether a historical man Jesus can be reasonably proved or not. I think that's for the most part irrelevant. We know Muhammad and Buddha lived but you don't believe their religions were correct... why not? Have you looked into the evidence to their beliefs and found it less credible than Christian beliefs? Do you think they're just as convinced of their religion as you are of yours?If you step back and look at all religions throughout history collectively, how they came to be and for what reasons, you will get a much better picture of what's actually going on.

[Smasharoo]

If you're talking about Lee Strobel's book, it's really not very well written, nor is it particularly compelling, as it's basically a collection of interviews of Christian eveangellical and apologetics.I don't think anyone's confused why there are so many Christians in this country, it's the easy way out of having to deal with the difficult parts of existance.

[LukesMom]

Smasharoo said:

I don't think anyone's confused why there are so many Christians in this country, it's the easy way out of having to deal with the difficult parts of existance.

Wow! That's a very superficial explanation of Christianity... Didn't really expect that from such an intellectual, but hey.... to each their own!I think it's great that Daniel decided to share this and I think, no matter what your beliefs, the world would be a much better place if more lived by the precepts of the Christian faith.

[Smasharoo]

Wow! That's a very superficial explanation of Christianity... Didn't really expect that from such an intellectual, but hey.... to each their own! I don't think it's superficial at all.I think it's completely accurate and probably fairly frustrating to people who'd prefer that it was so transparent./shrug.

[faketree]

I'm what most people would call an agnostic. I don't know what to believe. I guess when your parents are two different religions, it makes you question religion more.That being said, I took Daniel up on his offer for this book as I am in information freak. I won't exclude anything. I've read the Bible and its a great book. Arguably the greatest book ever. But thats all it is to me, a great book containing the best story ever imagined.I look forward to reading this book as soon as it arrives. I will let everyone know if I'm a Christian after I'm done. I highly doubt it. I give myself 10 to 1 on that.

[LukesMom]

faketree said:

I'm what most people would call an agnostic.  I don't know what to believe.  I guess when your parents are two different religions, it makes you question religion more.That being said, I took Daniel up on his offer for this book as I am in information freak.  I won't exclude anything.  I've read the Bible and its a great book.  Arguably the greatest book ever.  But thats all it is to me, a great book containing the best story ever imagined.I look forward to reading this book as soon as it arrives.  I will let everyone know if I'm a Christian after I'm done.  I highly doubt it.  I give myself 10 to 1 on that.

I look forward to hearing what you think.

[faketree]

Ok, I received the book from Daniel today. Immediately I noticed on the cover of the book an imprinted gold seal that are usually associated with some type of award the book received. Looking closer at it, I see that it is 'The Gold Medallion Award for Excellence in Evangelical Christian Literature'. This immediately sent off warning signs in my head that this may not be what people say it is; an objective look at the history of Jesus Christ. This could be just another piece of progaganda put out by the neo-conservative christian movement. However, I am still going to read it and with an open mind. I will give a report of my take on the book as soon as I am finished.Oh, and thanks for the book Daniel!

[jayistheman]

faketree said:

Ok, I received the book from Daniel today. Immediately I noticed on the cover of the book an imprinted gold seal that are usually associated with some type of award the book received. Looking closer at it, I see that it is 'The Gold Medallion Award for Excellence in Evangelical Christian Literature'. This immediately sent off warning signs in my head that this may not be what people say it is; an objective look at the history of Jesus Christ. This could be just another piece of progaganda put out by the neo-conservative christian movement. However, I am still going to read it and with an open mind. I will give a report of my take on the book as soon as I am finished.Oh, and thanks for the book Daniel!

ditto

[Project 2501]

i bought the book at powells this weekend (used @ 3.99) and have started into it. just for the sake of balanced discussion; i did find this:http://www.bidstrup....apologetics.htmbut i won't put stock into it until i've completed the book. my still biggest question is there is nothing that verifies that mr strobel was an atheist at the beginning of his journey.anyway; kudos to daniel for taking his personal time and money to distribute something that he found to be very important.

[jayistheman]

ty for the link... i'm gonna print that out and read it as i go along with stroebel's book

[Nikki_N]

I received mine from Amazon today. It did not have the "gold seal" on it. I've read the first few pages and my interest is piqued.Nikki

[LeeDanger]

As an atheist I might have to check this out.

[faketree]

Ok, so I'm thru the first two chapters. I'm being careful and reading very slowly and carefully and making notes as I go along.Without going into detail just yet, after reading the first two chapters, I get a sense that this book wasn't at all written by a skeptic or an athiest. This comes across more as someone who has already made his decision and it is clearly biased towards that decision. It even says at one point that he is retracing his steps. So, however bipartisan he is trying to be, it is clearly in the tone of a theist.So far, he seems to be focusing on eyewitness testimony in order to make proofs of his assumptions. This is highly flawed as eyewitness testimony is notoriously inaccurate and unreliable. In a court case, if all they have is eyewitness testimony for a crime, it usually won't even get past the grand jury because of a lack of evidence.Needless to say, after two chapters, I'm not at all impressed.

[LeeDanger]

How much does this cost?

[faketree]

LeeDanger said:

How much does this cost?

Email Daniel and he'll send you one for free. I mean, how can you pass up FREE?Well, I guess it's actually Travis thats sending them. But whatever. It still says Daniel on the return address.