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[KDawgCometh]

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with [8 :club: ], [A :club: ]. 4 folds.Flop: (5 SB) [9 :heart: ], [8 :spade: ], [9 :club: ] (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.Turn: (3.50 BB) [2 :club: ] (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.River: (5.50 BB) [5 :club: ] (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 13.50 BBI made a steal raise from the CO thinking that I more than likely have the best hand. SB is tight, but unimaginative. Was I right to threebet the river and call the cap when I improved to a flush

[wrto4556]

no, just call the river C/r.

[Absolute]

I don't really like the PF raise, but its not horrible.Flop bet is fine.On the river his C/R makes me think he has 5-5, so a smooth call might be best. But obviously you have to call his cap here too.

[wrto4556]

A8s is definately an open raise there.Don't be afraid, you have an ace.

[Absolute]

Do you put him on 5-5 there wrto?

[KDawgCometh]

The PF raise is perfgectly in reason here. My hand favors to be the gbest and its been folded around to me. It'd be dumb to limp with this hand, and I don't see a reason to fold here, so raising is the best option. I'd make this raise if there is an early limper into the pot too

[wrto4556]

KDawgCometh said:

The PF raise is perfgectly in reason here. My hand favors to be the gbest and its been folded around to me. It'd be dumb to limp with this hand, and I don't see a reason to fold here, so raising is the best option. I'd make this raise if there is an early limper into the pot too

yeeeaaaah. Build that pot!

[wrto4556]

Absolute said:

Do you put him on 5-5 there wrto?

I dunno. He could have a worse flush, a nine, 98, 95, 92, 22, 88, 55, 99....The point is that he check/raised you. There is an arguement for 3-betting, but I vote for call.

[Absolute]

In order to justify just callin you need to be able to put him on at least a small range of hands that beat you.My argument is, what else could he have other than 5-5 that beats you here the way he has played the hand?

[KDawgCometh]

Absolute said:

In order to justify just callin you need to be able to put him on at least a small range of hands that beat you.My argument is, what else could he have other than 5-5 that beats you here the way he has played the hand?

honestly I don't know. Pocket fives wasn't even a consideration when it happened. I had been aggressivly raising pots, so he very well could've been trying to string me along or woke up with an underflush. I posted this hand on 2+2 also

[wrto4556]

KDawgCometh said:

Absolute said:

In order to justify just callin you need to be able to put him on at least a small range of hands that beat you.My argument is, what else could he have other than 5-5 that beats you here the way he has played the hand?

honestly I don't know. Pocket fives wasn't even a consideration when it happened. I had been aggressivly raising pots, so he very well could've been trying to string me along or woke up with an underflush. I posted this hand on 2+2 also

What did entity say? 3-bet the river, call a cap?

[KDawgCometh]

wrto4556 said:

KDawgCometh said:

Absolute said:

In order to justify just callin you need to be able to put him on at least a small range of hands that beat you.My argument is, what else could he have other than 5-5 that beats you here the way he has played the hand?

honestly I don't know. Pocket fives wasn't even a consideration when it happened. I had been aggressivly raising pots, so he very well could've been trying to string me along or woke up with an underflush. I posted this hand on 2+2 also

What did entity say? 3-bet the river, call a cap?

lol, the grand poobah's pretty much decreed that My hand is worth a threebet 10-1 there and calling the cap is jsut a formality. So sayeth the Bible of ShillX(the main one I respect in the micr/low limit section)

[wrto4556]

Shillx and entity.Did you see that thread where they got into an arguement??Someone sais, "Everyone come quick! Morphious and Neo are fighting!"

[KDawgCometh]

wrto4556 said:

Shillx and entity.Did you see that thread where they got into an arguement??Someone sais, "Everyone come quick! Morphious and Neo are fighting!"  

lol. do you have a link to that thread, I'd love to see it. Has Dead moved up in limits cause I haven't seen him on the micros board or the lowlimits board

[wrto4556]

http://forumserver.t...w=&sb=5&o=&vc=1Alot of thinking involved.

[KDawgCometh]

wrto4556 said:

http://forumserver.t...t...amp;o=&vc=1Alot of thinking involved.

lol, that was great. I'm gonna reread it when I'm not tired and hoppewd up on cold pills

[Smasharoo]

They both tend to crazily overthink little minor points and argue about things that are farily menaingless in terms of long term win rate.That said, I agree with Entity more often.

[KDawgCometh]

I always get a good feeling when I see that entity or shillx have taken a look at my hand, I feel like I been touched by the divine hand , not really but they give good advice

[akishore]

K, i think you played this hand fine.open-raising with A8s in CO is perfectly fine, it figures to do well against three random hands and is a good steal hand as well. if i was the button, i would do the same with ANY suited ace.that said, your flop and turn play were fine, but the river play is interesting.to be honest, when i first read it, i thought you were being sarcastic with the question about the river three-bet. i didn't see that the flop was paired, so i figured you had the nuts, and i was thinking "what???" but i understand now. :-) i think the three-bet was fine, and here's why.SB check-called the flop. he might have overcards, a straight draw (6-7, 7-10, or 10-J), or might be hoping to trap with a 9 (A-9, K-9, etc.). i would definitely doubt he'd have 8-8 or 5-5, as most people would three-bet pre-flop sensing a blind steal (though this varies by player and the aggressiveness of the game).he also check-called the turn. this is where i feel he does not have a 9 or 8-8. if a player slowplays the flop heads-up, the turn is almost always where they wake up and raise/three-bet, because the limits have doubled and now it's profitable to get in as many bets as you can.because he didn't raise the turn, i think the river means he either hit the 5 (A-5 maybe?), hit the straight, or hit an underflush. i can't imagine him filling up on the river and slowplaying to the end, unless he had 8-9. again, though, since he didn't raise the turn, i think you made a correct three-bet, and calling the cap was, of course, a formality as you said.good post,aseem

[DeadMoney6545]

"ClownShoe" wrote:They both tend to crazily overthink little minor points and argue about things that are farily menaingless in terms of long term win rate. That said, I agree with Entity more often.i was thinking the exact same thing... can i now be exalted?