BeaverStyle 1 Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)UTG (t1870)MP1 (t1410)MP2 (t2965)CO (t1315)Hero (t1590)SB (t1270)BB (t1610)Preflop: Hero is Button with K, Q. 2 folds, MP2 raises to t90, 1 fold, Hero calls t90, SB calls t75, 1 fold.Flop: (t300) J, 4, T(3 players)SB bets t120, MP2 raises to t360, Hero foldsFinal Pot: t2660I think now it was a bad fold.. I put original flop better on any pair, based on a read I had watching him play a few hands so far in the tourney (loose read, but a read nonetheless)Not much of a read on other Opponent, but raising preflop, and no chance to C/B, he raises 3X flop betters raise, I put him on AJ, A10 1010 JJ QQ KK AA, AK/AQ/AJ clubsShould I draw to the straight here? Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 69 Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Should I draw to the straight here?No. You are not closing the action.Also, you do not know whether a K or Q will help you, or whether a 9 or A of clubs will help you. But more importantly SB is alive behind you. Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 stacks aren't deep enough for you to be able to absorb the times when SB moves in. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 pushing would be better than calling.folding better than both Link to post Share on other sites
Mashchit 0 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 pushing would be better than calling.folding better than bothQFT.I wouldn't be in the hand in the first place though. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 QFT.I wouldn't be in the hand in the first place though.really?I definitly see the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 QFT.I wouldn't be in the hand in the first place though. QFTx2 Folding > Pushing > Calling.Completely disagree with bold. Link to post Share on other sites
throwemaway 0 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Folding KQs here on the button PF for that small percentage of our stack would be pretty weak/tight..3x raises at this blind level dont display a ton of strength imo..But yea Beav, folding here was the right play Link to post Share on other sites
Rocketwadster 0 Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Facing a bet and a raise, your open-ended straight draw (with backdoor flush draw) would be a silly call IMO. Some of your outs are probably taken by your opponents as well. If you do decide to play, you should push to maximize fold equity, and get to see all five cards. Easy fold for me. Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted June 21, 2006 Author Share Posted June 21, 2006 I went with the majority opinion here...Results.Both donks were craaaaaaaazy pushing their TPTK... and both made two pair on the turn....lol.Looking back, I'm OK with my move, and I believe I AT LEAST ended up cashing. Link to post Share on other sites
shpaget 0 Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Deeper stacks it might be a push (and by deeper, I mean add a 0 to the end of everyone's stack size)...but I fold here every day and twice on Sunday (unless I'm against tighties that I KNOW will fold tp)two of your straight outs provide a flush.two of your overcard outs provide a flush.Any one of your overcard outs complete a straight.And a couple of your ace outs could be in your opponents' hands.Your 5 options areFoldFoldFoldPushFoldCall is about 12th here. Link to post Share on other sites
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