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[Knight_Owl]

WPEX

3/6

I HAVE on the button.

mp raises then its followed by 2 stone cold callers that call 2 bets,

I 3 bet


flop

orignal raiser checks, check, and then a player that I have notes on as a rock/sollid player that whenever bets turn/river has goods"

so its Raised, I Re-Raise with my

turn

villian checks

I raise

Villian Re-Raises

Hero?


Do I follow through w/ my notes or mathematically (spell check) call down?!

[avsfan]

"villian checks

I raise"

You mean bet?

[Knight_Owl]

"villian checks

I raise"

You mean bet?

he check/raised me on turn...

[hotbacon]

call down unless you can be muhc less ambigious than "the goods."

[doubleatrain]

I call down there most likely, though I don't think you can be faulted for going with a read if it's strong enough.

Also, it should be noted that when you have an overpair to the board, oftentimes what people are betting because they have "the goods" loses to your overpair.

Also, as someone else pointed out, when there hasn't been any action, it's not usually called a raise, but rather bet. Not a big issue, but it can throw off some quick analysis sometimes.

[Knight_Owl]

I call down there most likely, though I don't think you can be faulted for going with a read if it's strong enough.

Also, it should be noted that when you have an overpair to the board, oftentimes what people are betting because they have "the goods" loses to your overpair.

Also, as someone else pointed out, when there hasn't been any action, it's not usually called a raise, but rather bet. Not a big issue, but it can throw off some quick analysis sometimes.

I'm new @ this I'll keep that reference in mind. from watching this player in previous hands 95% of the time he has better than TP when bets/c/r on turn or river.



RESULT: I folded

[avsfan]

NO.

It proably AQ or AJ with the ace being clubs. A solid player doesn't cap you preflop with both those hands (dummies) but sees the increase in odds on the turn and starts doin the check raise dance turn fever. the kids love this check raise dance turn fever. her better than T/P here is the draw to the nut flush etc.. against your overpair. Imho

I proabbly totaly got that all wrong but I tried.

[fckthis]

Meh, if you have a read on your opponent, then I guess generally its a good fold.

[Actuary]

it's relative

[avsfan]

So where in Mid Postion is the player? DOes this player raise KJsuited or off in is this position? Do they raise QJsuited or off in this position? Do they conceal big pairs when they get action back when others are in the pot? Will they raise a 66 preflop here? These are some of the realtive question here. fwiw

[Actuary]

Credibility Theory.

so useful.

It's essentially assigning a weight to your reads and to the card distributions (math). When players post hands with reads you'll see it run the gambit as posters use that read to a lesser ---------> greater degree than another.

Personally, I need lots of clear actions to go with reads when the math points strongly the other way. But, it's gradual, as the reads get more robust, you begin to shape your range for the villain more strictly.

[CobaltBlue]

The action is a little confusing the way it's written, but it seems to be a mid-position cold caller that has bet/called the flop and check/raised the turn. So work out what he's cold-calling with pre-flop and what he's bet/calling the flop with. AK/AQ/QQ/JJ? Or is it wider than that? AcJ/QJ/T9/66/KT?

[The Nuts]

Credibility Theory.

so useful.

It's essentially assigning a weight to your reads and to the card distributions (math). When players post hands with reads you'll see it run the gambit as posters use that read to a lesser ---------> greater degree than another.

Personally, I need lots of clear actions to go with reads when the math points strongly the other way. But, it's gradual, as the reads get more robust, you begin to shape your range for the villain more strictly.

I agree. When in doubt, I go by pot odds. Even if I'm required to make a crying call on the river with ridiculously huge odds knowing that I'm most likely beat by anything except for a bluff or missed draw, I have to do it mathematically.