wrto4556 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 UTG is tight/aggressive 14%/6%/2Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (7 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP1 with 9 , 9 . UTG calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (4 SB) 9 , A , 8 (5 players)SB checks, BB bets, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.Duh.Turn: (6.50 BB) J (4 players)BB checks, UTG bets, BB folds, UTG calls.It's either a straight or two pair. I raised half for value half for information.River: (10.50 BB) J (3 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, Hero calls.He C/r'ed me, it's obvious i'm beat. There's no way i'm folding in a pot this big...I feel that I should have bet this river. Am I right>Final Pot: 14.50 BB Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 first, I woulda raisd pre-flop, also I dont mind betting the river....but the c/r amkes me think he has AJ Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Author Share Posted March 13, 2005 first, I woulda raisd pre-flop, also I dont mind betting the river....but the c/r amkes me think he has AJRaising preflop is a bad idea from there. Had UTG limped and I was the button-and it folded around to me-i would be more than happy to raise. But it's a bad idea up front. I'm limping to get more customers for when I hit my set. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 yeah, really there's nothin you can do about that one. More often than not that river bet is definetly for value. How did you get game tracker to work, or was it from previous sessions Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 first, I woulda raisd pre-flop, also I dont mind betting the river....but the c/r amkes me think he has AJRaising preflop is a bad idea from there. Had UTG limped and I was the button-and it folded around to me-i would be more than happy to raise. But it's a bad idea up front. I'm limping to get more customers for when I hit my set.Youre folding to get more customers IF you hit a set Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Author Share Posted March 13, 2005 yeah, really there's nothin you can do about that one. More often than not that river bet is definetly for value. How did you get game tracker to work, or was it from previous sessionsMuahahahaha. That link that elkgang left worked like a charm. I now have gametime up and running.Had ATs.Flop QTTCapped on the flopTurn 5guy bets, I look at his stats (50%/15%/5.4)So I raise there, too. He calls and bets the river, I raise it. Got paid big where I would have slowed down against an unknown player.It's already made me money in more than one occasion. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Author Share Posted March 13, 2005 first, I woulda raisd pre-flop, also I dont mind betting the river....but the c/r amkes me think he has AJRaising preflop is a bad idea from there. Had UTG limped and I was the button-and it folded around to me-i would be more than happy to raise. But it's a bad idea up front. I'm limping to get more customers for when I hit my set.Youre folding to get more customers IF you hit a setWHEN...it may not be this time, it may not be next time, but I WILL hit a set...and when I do, I want as many people in the pot as possible.Know what im saying? Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Eddie, raising 99 in MP1 at this limit is dumb. If it gets raised behind you then by all means threebet PF to hopefully isolate. Limping here will make you more money than raising. Only big cards can call you and if you don't hit your set and big cards come your screwed. So then you just wasted two bets only to fold the flop. Its -EV Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 WHEN...it may not be this time, it may not be next time, but I WILL hit a set...and when I do, I want as many people in the pot as possible. Know what im saying?I get ya Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 OK this is a really interesting hand..Pre-Flop: I think your call here is right. Limp and call one raise with 9-9 in EP.Flop: Dream action for middle set. Bet, raise, three-bet, cap, downpayment for the house, etc.Turn: Funny how he slowed down on the flop and then comes out on the turn. Smells like a fish to me. He plays this turn horribly IMO. Bets out when your plays on the flop tells him that even if he has AJ hes still probably losing, and then just calls. Why he doesnt check/call here baffles me. Sounds like you are gonna enjoy having this guy at your table.Flop: What a lucky ass SOB. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Author Share Posted March 13, 2005 UTG is tight/aggressive 14%/6%/2He played it just the way I would have played it. Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 what do the #s designate(?)/(?)/(?)And what, you flop top pair, get three-bet and slow down, then come back out on the turn?That's how you play it? Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Author Share Posted March 13, 2005 VP$IP/PFR%/Agression factor Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Three-bet the river, call a cap. Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 more hands wrtoalso, can i get in on this strategy blog Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 more hands wrtoalso, can i get in on this strategy blogonly if you perform certain "favors" for us all Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Author Share Posted March 13, 2005 Three-bet the river, call a cap.Even with the read on UTG? Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Author Share Posted March 13, 2005 more hands wrtoalso, can i get in on this strategy blogI can't find anymore that may have mistakes...but i'm still looking. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 ewwwwwhat can I say, its 2:30 am and I've been up since 9 am and I'm sick. I think I've gone loopy Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Even with the read on UTG?Yes. He plays 88 the same, A8s/A9s the same, QT the same, etc etc.I wouldn't expect him to limp with AJ UTG 7 handed if those are his stats. I think this isn't AJ most of the time.don't post results Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Author Share Posted March 13, 2005 don't post results I deleted them as fast as I could.But those are really his stats...if you notice, he doesn't raise all that much preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Where did he say that UTG had AJ? Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 But those are really his stats...if you notice, he doesn't raise all that much preflop.I guess. Was it 7 handed the whole time?I'd almost allways bet this river regardless. There are just too many hands you're beating and not many you're behind that play it this way.I don't worry about paying off runner-runner overfulls or quads much because it's going to happen so infrequently when there are runner board pairs.He might play AK this way thinking he's made a better two pair as well. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Author Share Posted March 13, 2005 I guess. Was it 7 handed the whole time?Nah. Couple people just got up.Just got a little scurred when the tight ass check raised me on the river. I'll force feed 3-betting until i'm comfortable. Link to post Share on other sites
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