Rounder v2 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 I’ve just come back from a short break from poker and the only reliable game I got going right now is with some friends that are classified as fish. Lately I have not been getting very good cards, and when I tried to bluff one in a recent game with 4 spades on the board the guy that was in the hand with me called with a pair of queens. Afterward I said, “You weren’t scared of the 4 spades on board?" and he said, "Oh, I didn’t even see the 4 spades". Needless to say I haven’t been doing as well as I’d like to in these games. What should I change in my game to get better results play fish when the cards are in the freezer? -Thanks To Everyone That Responds, And To FCP Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 What should I change in my game to get better results play fish when the cards are in the freezer?Perhaps you shouldn't try to bluff bad players who will pay you off when you do have good hands?These things go hand in hand. If you have a made flush with 4 spades on the board he's going to call you with QQ. If you have nothing and bet into him...he's going to call you with QQ.Be more patient. Link to post Share on other sites
eniven 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 couldn't agree more. Bluffing at low limit (at least online micro limit) doesn't usually work well enough to have +EV in my experience. Semi bluffing can pay off well but outright bluffing doesn't do much good knowing that you will usually get called down with bottom pair or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 how do you beat a fish w/ cold cardshonestly....you probably wont....theyll call anything Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 how do you beat a fish w/ cold cardshonestly....you probably wont....theyll call anythingare you retarded? Link to post Share on other sites
21gambit 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Show them monster hands repeatedly, time after time. Only once they see you playing with nut hands repeatedly can you start bluffing them out, before then theyll call anything. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 how do you beat a fish w/ cold cardshonestly....you probably wont....theyll call anythingare you retarded?are you? I played my bro the other day(comlete fish) I bet the river with Q high, he called with 8 high!!! A fish almost always stays in with ANYTHING Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 how do you beat a fish w/ cold cardshonestly....you probably wont....theyll call anythingare you retarded?are you? I played my bro the other day(comlete fish) I bet the river with Q high, he called with 8 high!!! A fish almost always stays in with ANYTHINGThe *key* words in your stupid comment there were "almost" and "always", keep playing clowns. Link to post Share on other sites
Rounder v2 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Author Share Posted March 13, 2005 Please post your own opinions, and do not call other people retards for saying what they think, we can discuss what we think would work best instead of arguing. -Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Please post your own opinions, and do not call other people retards for saying what they think, we can discuss what we think would work best instead of arguing. -Thankswell the clown said that you can't beat a fish because the'll call anything. . .so you wait for them to take all of the small pots until you have the nutz. Is that to hard to understand XXEddie? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Please post your own opinions, and do not call other people retards for saying what they think, we can discuss what we think would work best instead of arguing. -Thankswell the clown said that you can't beat a fish because the'll call anything. . .so you wait for them to take all of the small pots until you have the nutz. Is that to hard to understand XXEddie?I didnt say wait till you have the nutsI said its hard to beat them with cold cards...meaning shitty cards.....meaning.....crap like K high is they best shit youve seen in twenty minutesAt what point did I say fold untill you have the nuts Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Please post your own opinions, and do not call other people retards for saying what they think, we can discuss what we think would work best instead of arguing. -Thankswell the clown said that you can't beat a fish because the'll call anything. . .so you wait for them to take all of the small pots until you have the nutz. Is that to hard to understand XXEddie?I didnt say wait till you have the nutsI said its hard to beat them with cold cards...meaning censored cards.....meaning.....crap like K high is they best censored youve seen in twenty minutesAt what point did I say fold untill you have the nuts how do you beat a fish w/ cold cards honestly....you probably wont....theyll call anythingdo you not read what you wrote previously, or can't you outplay a person without the cards showing? Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Please post your own opinions, and do not call other people retards for saying what they think, we can discuss what we think would work best instead of arguing.-ThanksPlease stop cluttering up threads with extraeous posts that offer no content, aren't funny and do nothing but attempt to chastize other posters (who will either ignore or laugh at you) for no particular reason. This site has mods, it's not your job, and it accomplishes nothing.Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 do you not read what you wrote previouslywhere in the post did I say fold till you have the nuts Link to post Share on other sites
Rounder v2 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Author Share Posted March 13, 2005 Im sorry just wanted to get the post back to poker.... Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 how do you beat a fish w/ cold cards honestly....you probably wont....theyll call anythingwell. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .you want to learn to outplay players preflop and postflop, and if you can't outplay a fish, you are the fish Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 how do you beat a fish w/ cold cards honestly....you probably wont....theyll call anythingwell. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .you want to learn to outplay players preflop and postflop, and if you can't outplay a fish, you are the fishnor did I say you cant outplay them, I said fish will call any bet at any time, so if you have cold cards, they will call your bluff about 90% of the time Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 how do you beat a fish w/ cold cards honestly....you probably wont....theyll call anythingwell. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .you want to learn to outplay players preflop and postflop, and if you can't outplay a fish, you are the fishnor did I say you cant outplay them, I said fish will call any bet at any time, so if you have cold cards, they will call your bluff about 90% of the timestats to prove that? nope, not possible like I said if you can't beat the fish, you are the fish. Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 are you? I played my bro the other day(comlete fish) I bet the river with Q high, he called with 8 high!!! A fish almost always stays in with ANYTHINGMust be genetic. Link to post Share on other sites
Nutcracker 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 You don't have to wait until (edit: you) have the nuts. Just be aggressive with any semi-solid hand. Bet big on each card and they'll call you down. It's pretty straightfoward and simple. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 You don't have to wait until they have the nuts. Just be aggressive with any semi-solid hand. Bet big on each card and they'll call you down. It's pretty straightfoward and simple.allinbluff doesnt seem to understand that Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 how do you beat a fish w/ cold cards honestly....you probably wont....theyll call anythingwell. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .you want to learn to outplay players preflop and postflop, and if you can't outplay a fish, you are the fishnor did I say you cant outplay them, I said fish will call any bet at any time, so if you have cold cards, they will call your bluff about 90% of the timestats to prove that? nope, not possible like I said if you can't beat the fish, you are the fish.now your agreuments dont even make sense........ Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 how do you beat a fish w/ cold cards honestly....you probably wont....theyll call anythingwell. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .you want to learn to outplay players preflop and postflop, and if you can't outplay a fish, you are the fishnor did I say you cant outplay them, I said fish will call any bet at any time, so if you have cold cards, they will call your bluff about 90% of the timestats to prove that? nope, not possible like I said if you can't beat the fish, you are the fish.now your agreuments dont even make sense........why? are you stupid, slow, or retarded? at least say yes to the last two and it might make sense. If you can't answer yes to either of the two S words I used, you are the fish. Link to post Share on other sites
brisk 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 are you? I played my bro the other day(comlete fish) I bet the river with Q high, he called with 8 high!!! A fish almost always stays in with ANYTHINGMust be genetic.nice comment, i likes..with regards to the post (and not the fued) - i have had this problem and have 2 possible solutions, more often i choose #1:1. stop playing in games you feel poker *skill* is not a factor2.loosen up -start playing very marginal hand, and stay to the showdown even if you only have 2nd pair ... and don't get frustrated when they suck out ... because they will often...this is why playing in 1-2, 2-4 games in vegas casinos gives you worse odds than the slots ... at a 9 or 10 seated table of fish, you can straddle bet all you want, but 7 or 8 will still see the flop ... and by that time, of course, they are pot committed Link to post Share on other sites
SapphireTiger 0 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 i have no idea what allinbluff is saying.gives me a headachebut in respond to the main topicPATIENCE PATIENCE PATIENCE...way to state the obvious but the chances of you getting 72 is the same as AK so a cold deck is all superstition Link to post Share on other sites
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