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[rocko44]

Hey folks, put in about five hours all-told today and broke even (Woo! ...). There were a couple of hands in particular that I'd like your opinions on how I played them - one I won and one I lost. Frank and honest is the way to go here - I want to know how badly I **$&ed them up. My game has more leaks than a submarine with a screen door and I'm trying to do something about it.Start with the losing hand:***** Hand History for Game 1721557649 *****$0.5/$1 Hold'em - Friday, March 11, 21:21:41 EDT 2005Table Table 32738 (Real Money)Seat 9 is the buttonTotal number of players : 7 Seat 1: JBJB951 ( $24 )Seat 2: murphy77 ( $8 )Seat 3: mzavala1013 ( $16.5 )Seat 8: lizzie1975 ( $12.5 )Seat 9: indiansnob ( $15.75 )Seat 5: XParadox ( $14.75 )Seat 4: MidwestPimpp ( $20 )JBJB951 posts small blind [$0.25].murphy77 posts big blind [$0.5].MidwestPimpp is sitting out.** Dealing down cards **Dealt to XParadox [ 4h Ah ]mzavala1013 folds.XParadox calls [$0.5].Now our table to this point had been pretty passive - maybe one PF raise in the past five hands, so I felt I could sneak in UTG+1.lizzie1975 folds.indiansnob calls [$0.5].JBJB951 raises [$0.75].Of course I can't.murphy77 calls [$0.5].XParadox calls [$0.5].indiansnob calls [$0.5].** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, Kh, 6h ]JBJB951 bets [$0.5].murphy77 folds.XParadox calls [$0.5].indiansnob raises [$1].JBJB951 calls [$0.5].XParadox calls [$0.5].Seems to work out all right, though. Flopped the nut flush. I figured I'd call the flop and then pop the turn, but when indiansnob raised, should I have thought about three-betting? That'd smell fishy to me, were I in their shoes, if I had limped and then raised in the same betting round.** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]JBJB951 bets [$1].XParadox raises [$2].indiansnob calls [$2].JBJB951 raises [$2].XParadox raises [$2].mudfish111 has joined the table.indiansnob folds.JBJB951 calls [$1].Of course the board pairs and I start cussing in five different languages. I decide to cap it anyway. With the preflop raise, I put him on a king at least, I'm hoping A/K or maybe even K/Q.** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]JBJB951 bets [$1].XParadox calls [$1].The board pairs AGAIN and all it takes now is a six or a two to send me to the poorhouse. Not raising on the river is weak-tight, though, right? I mean, he raised pre-flop and I hope he wouldn't do that with a six or a two.JBJB951 shows [ Kc, Kd ] a full house, Kings full of sixes.XParadox doesn't show [ 4h, Ah ] a flush, ace high.JBJB951 wins $18.25 from the main pot with a full house, Kings full of sixes.*#&$Now, on a happier note, here's the one I won.#Game No : 1723642679 ***** Hand History for Game 1723642679 *****$0.5/$1 Hold'em - Saturday, March 12, 05:44:18 EDT 2005Table Table 36444 (Real Money)Seat 9 is the buttonTotal number of players : 9 Seat 3: BadAssKiller ( $24 )Seat 4: egypt_ontilt ( $39.5 )Seat 6: XParadox ( $25 )Seat 8: Kaban555 ( $32.5 )Seat 9: neohalo ( $6.12 )Seat 7: colbol ( $18 )Seat 5: Trader_jack ( $24 )Seat 1: brad193 ( $24 )Seat 2: Olivanja ( $25 )brad193 posts small blind [$0.25].Olivanja posts big blind [$0.5].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to XParadox [ 5h 5s ]BadAssKiller folds.egypt_ontilt folds.Trader_jack folds.XParadox calls [$0.5].colbol calls [$0.5].Kaban555 folds.neohalo folds.brad193 calls [$0.25].Olivanja checks.I limp with the pair of fives. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 5c, 5d ]brad193 checks.Olivanja checks.XParadox checks.colbol bets [$0.5].brad193 calls [$0.5].Olivanja folds.XParadox calls [$0.5].... SWEET MARY MOTHER JOSEPH, QUADS! QUADS! QUADS!!! ... Okay Rocko, calm down now. A bet and a call and I don't want to scare anybody away, so I just call as well.** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]brad193 checks.XParadox checks.colbol bets [$1].brad193 folds.XParadox calls [$1].brad193 lets his hand go. I still wonder what the heck he was holding. Anyway, now it's heads-up. The bettor is still showing strength - could I sneak in a raise? I'm still wary of scaring him off before getting all I can out of this.** Dealing River ** [ 6s ]XParadox checks.colbol bets [$1].XParadox raises [$2].colbol calls [$1].XParadox shows [ 5h, 5s ] four of a kind, fives.colbol doesn't show [ 7d, 7h ] two pairs, sevens and fives.XParadox wins $9 from the main pot with four of a kind, fives.He's been betting all along, so I didn't think he'd stop now - snuck in the check-raise on the river for the extra bet.Interesting to look at this now, I had no idea he had pocket sevens. I had just assumed he had a jack. Wow. Talk about a friendly flop for me.

[Smasharoo]

These are both bad hands to post if you're looking for leaks.Just call the raise on the turn in the first one, and call it down, the second one's heads up on the turn so it realy deosn't matter much if you raise the turn and then bet the river or call the turn and raise the river.Also don't post results, then I could have told you it was KK and looked good.

[KDawgCometh]

Start with the losing hand:***** Hand History for Game 1721557649 *****$0.5/$1 Hold'em - Friday, March 11, 21:21:41 EDT 2005Table Table 32738 (Real Money)Seat 9 is the buttonTotal number of players : 7 Seat 1: JBJB951 ( $24 )Seat 2: murphy77 ( $8 )Seat 3: mzavala1013 ( $16.5 )Seat 8: lizzie1975 ( $12.5 )Seat 9: indiansnob ( $15.75 )Seat 5: XParadox ( $14.75 )Seat 4: MidwestPimpp ( $20 )JBJB951 posts small blind [$0.25].murphy77 posts big blind [$0.5].MidwestPimpp is sitting out.** Dealing down cards **Dealt to XParadox [ 4h Ah ]mzavala1013 folds.XParadox calls [$0.5].Now our table to this point had been pretty passive - maybe one PF raise in the past five hands, so I felt I could sneak in UTG+1.lizzie1975 folds.indiansnob calls [$0.5].JBJB951 raises [$0.75].Of course I can't.murphy77 calls [$0.5].XParadox calls [$0.5].indiansnob calls [$0.5].** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, Kh, 6h ]JBJB951 bets [$0.5].murphy77 folds.XParadox calls [$0.5].indiansnob raises [$1].JBJB951 calls [$0.5].XParadox calls [$0.5].Seems to work out all right, though. Flopped the nut flush. I figured I'd call the flop and then pop the turn, but when indiansnob raised, should I have thought about three-betting? That'd smell fishy to me, were I in their shoes, if I had limped and then raised in the same betting round.this is where you should've gotten into a raising war.Someone else has shown a lot of aggression on a obscenely coordinted board. Ram and jam time baby.You need to threebet after the guy raises** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]JBJB951 bets [$1].XParadox raises [$2].indiansnob calls [$2].JBJB951 raises [$2].XParadox raises [$2].mudfish111 has joined the table.indiansnob folds.JBJB951 calls [$1].Of course the board pairs and I start cussing in five different languages. I decide to cap it anyway. With the preflop raise, I put him on a king at least, I'm hoping A/K or maybe even K/Q.you really have to be worried here as the sb bets into you and the field after a raiser behind him and he was the PF riaser. when he threebets it you should just call, what could he be capping it with this type of board, the nuts of course** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]JBJB951 bets [$1].XParadox calls [$1].The board pairs AGAIN and all it takes now is a six or a two to send me to the poorhouse. Not raising on the river is weak-tight, though, right? I mean, he raised pre-flop and I hope he wouldn't do that with a six or a two.good job just calling himJBJB951 shows [ Kc, Kd ] a full house, Kings full of sixes.XParadox doesn't show [ 4h, Ah ] a flush, ace high.JBJB951 wins $18.25 from the main pot with a full house, Kings full of sixes.*#&$Now, on a happier note, here's the one I won.#Game No : 1723642679 ***** Hand History for Game 1723642679 *****$0.5/$1 Hold'em - Saturday, March 12, 05:44:18 EDT 2005Table Table 36444 (Real Money)Seat 9 is the buttonTotal number of players : 9 Seat 3: BadAssKiller ( $24 )Seat 4: egypt_ontilt ( $39.5 )Seat 6: XParadox ( $25 )Seat 8: Kaban555 ( $32.5 )Seat 9: neohalo ( $6.12 )Seat 7: colbol ( $18 )Seat 5: Trader_jack ( $24 )Seat 1: brad193 ( $24 )Seat 2: Olivanja ( $25 )brad193 posts small blind [$0.25].Olivanja posts big blind [$0.5].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to XParadox [ 5h 5s ]BadAssKiller folds.egypt_ontilt folds.Trader_jack folds.XParadox calls [$0.5].colbol calls [$0.5].Kaban555 folds.neohalo folds.brad193 calls [$0.25].Olivanja checks.I limp with the pair of fives. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 5c, 5d ]brad193 checks.Olivanja checks.XParadox checks.colbol bets [$0.5].brad193 calls [$0.5].Olivanja folds.XParadox calls [$0.5].... SWEET MARY MOTHER JOSEPH, QUADS! QUADS! QUADS!!! ... Okay Rocko, calm down now. A bet and a call and I don't want to scare anybody away, so I just call as well.fine** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]brad193 checks.XParadox checks.colbol bets [$1].brad193 folds.XParadox calls [$1].brad193 lets his hand go. I still wonder what the heck he was holding. Anyway, now it's heads-up. The bettor is still showing strength - could I sneak in a raise? I'm still wary of scaring him off before getting all I can out of this.this is really where you should've bet out or popped it up. You can usually get more out of people on the turn then the river** Dealing River ** [ 6s ]XParadox checks.colbol bets [$1].XParadox raises [$2].colbol calls [$1].XParadox shows [ 5h, 5s ] four of a kind, fives.colbol doesn't show [ 7d, 7h ] two pairs, sevens and fives.XParadox wins $9 from the main pot with four of a kind, fives.He's been betting all along, so I didn't think he'd stop now - snuck in the check-raise on the river for the extra bet.Interesting to look at this now, I had no idea he had pocket sevens. I had just assumed he had a jack. Wow. Talk about a friendly flop for me.