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#1 KDawgCometh

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Posted 11 March 2005 - 09:57 PM

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP2 with [J :spade: ], [J :club: ]. 2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, Hero calls.Flop: (14 SB) [3 :club: ], [9 :club: ], [T :diamond: ] (4 players)SB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB folds, UTG+2 calls.Turn: (8.50 BB) [8 :diamond: ] (3 players)UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, CO folds, UTG+2 calls.River: (10.50 BB) [Q :spade: ] (2 players)UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 18.50 BButg+2 is very loose and has raised with 2 pair before on a coordinated board. Was I overzealous on this river
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 10:01 PM

utg+2 is very loose and has raised with 2 pair before on a coordinated board. Was I overzealous on this river think so, I beleive he had either KJ or QQ

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Posted 11 March 2005 - 11:51 PM

KDawgCometh said:

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP2 with [J :spade: ], [J :club: ]. 2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, Hero calls.Flop: (14 SB) [3 :club: ], [9 :club: ], [T :diamond: ] (4 players)SB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB folds, UTG+2 calls.Turn: (8.50 BB) [8 :diamond: ] (3 players)UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, CO folds, UTG+2 calls.River: (10.50 BB) [Q :spade: ] (2 players)UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 18.50 BButg+2 is very loose and has raised with 2 pair before on a coordinated board. Was I overzealous on this river
Looks fine to me - only K J beats you and what he is doing calling down with a gut shot to the river. River bets look good
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 11:53 PM

Nice hand.
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 11:54 PM

Was I overzealous on this riverYes.Just call the raise.For your three-bet to be worthwhile you have to be winning this *outright* most of the time.Most of the time you're splitting and some of the time you're paying off KJ.

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Posted 12 March 2005 - 07:36 AM

XXEddie said:

utg+2 is very loose and has raised with 2 pair before on a coordinated board. Was I overzealous on this river think so, I beleive he had either KJ or QQ
I don't think he has QQ here, he would have raised preflop, and the flop instead of calling both.The fact that he checkcalls the flop, I'm thinking 2 overcards.The check-call on the turn, I personally would never chase just 2 overcards to the river, unless I'm getting incredible odds, which would probably mean a pair wasn't going to win it anyway. If he has the J, he's open-ended, not Gutshot like someone above said, plus w/ KJ, he's drawing to the nut straight.The Q hitting, best case scenario, considering how he's played the hand and the fact that he's raising me here, I'm probably splitting this pot, no reason to get into a raising war when there's definite possibility that I lose.




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