Marc-O 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 So Im in the $33 + R WSOP 1 seat gaurnteed on stars right now...Im in top 5 of chips with about 100 left and been steam rolling the table until this hand comes up.... with the only other big stack at the table...pls discus..... i know my preflop call was a little creative... but so was his raise ? like jeez.... dont ppl want to avoid the big stack ?? ... ughhh trying not to tilt.... im still ok with chips thou... i guess this is a test to see if i got what it takes....PokerStars Game #5177713129: Tournament #25779414, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/06/07 - 00:49:51 (ET)Table '25779414 20' 9-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: t soprano (3420 in chips) Seat 2: CHEF WILLIAM (10170 in chips) Seat 3: Marc-0 (15450 in chips) Seat 4: MNYHUNT (6145 in chips) Seat 5: Smosas (7948 in chips) Seat 6: sherman58 (4535 in chips) Seat 7: georgeman88 (5400 in chips) Seat 8: crazybob (5070 in chips) is sitting outSeat 9: karecon (10980 in chips) Marc-0: posts small blind 75MNYHUNT: posts big blind 150*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Marc-0 [8d 6h]Smosas: folds sherman58: folds georgeman88: folds crazybob: folds karecon: folds t soprano: folds CHEF WILLIAM: raises 300 to 450Marc-0: calls 375MNYHUNT: folds *** FLOP *** [7c 5d 4d]Marc-0: checks CHEF WILLIAM: bets 900Marc-0: raises 1200 to 2100CHEF WILLIAM: raises 1200 to 3300Marc-0: raises 11700 to 15000 and is all-inCHEF WILLIAM: calls 6420 and is all-in*** TURN *** [7c 5d 4d] [5c]*** RIVER *** [7c 5d 4d 5c] [7d]*** SHOW DOWN ***Marc-0: shows [8d 6h] (a straight, Four to Eight)CHEF WILLIAM: shows [Kh 5s] (a full house, Fives full of Sevens)MNYHUNT said, "THE MUSLEMS ARE TAKEING OVER YOUR COUNTRY LIKE THE MEXICANS HAVE TAKEN OVER THE USA"CHEF WILLIAM collected 20490 from potMarc-0 said, "wowww"*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 20490 | Rake 0 Board [7c 5d 4d 5c 7d]Seat 1: t soprano folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: CHEF WILLIAM (button) showed [Kh 5s] and won (20490) with a full house, Fives full of SevensSeat 3: Marc-0 (small blind) showed [8d 6h] and lost with a straight, Four to EightSeat 4: MNYHUNT (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 5: Smosas folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: sherman58 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: georgeman88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: crazybob folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: karecon folded before Flop (didn't bet) Link to post Share on other sites
crocd99 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 dude k5 tough break though Link to post Share on other sites
Canary3 1 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 the preflop call is pretty horrible and of course.... stars is rigged Link to post Share on other sites
Marc-O 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Author Share Posted June 7, 2006 the preflop call is pretty horrible and of course.... stars is riggedreally though ? I mean it's folded around to him in the sb... and its nothing for me to see a flop.... of course i flop the joint...and he goes runner runner boat...errrrrrrr how do ppl put their whole tournament on the line with 2nd pair no draw......against the big stack of the table .... Link to post Share on other sites
InertGrudge 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Please note:You want him to go all-in there. Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Table '25779414 20' 9-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: t soprano (3420 in chips) Seat 2: CHEF WILLIAM (10170 in chips) Seat 3: Marc-0 (15450 in chips) Seat 4: MNYHUNT (6145 in chips) Seat 5: Smosas (7948 in chips) Seat 6: sherman58 (4535 in chips) Seat 7: georgeman88 (5400 in chips) Seat 8: crazybob (5070 in chips) is sitting outSeat 9: karecon (10980 in chips) Marc-0: posts small blind 75MNYHUNT: posts big blind 150really though ? I mean it's folded around to him in the sb... and its nothing for me to see a flop.... of course i flop the joint...He's actually on the button and you're in the sb. Don't think you really have position to call a 3x bb raise with a 68os. Gotta just give up your sb for 75 and move on. But yeah, strange call by him post-flop. Link to post Share on other sites
FourFlusher 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 They are just nuts, playing two card bingo.Last night I raised in with QQ, bet every chance I got, got called down with K2...but, it was sooted. Butthead hit the flush on the river.I'm almost done playing online...it's impossible. I think I have about twenty bucks left, no more deposits for me. Link to post Share on other sites
offset 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 the preflop call is pretty horribleYes, against a guy who will give away 100bb with mid pair on a coordinated board the call is horrible.Riiiighhhhhhtttt..... Link to post Share on other sites
crocd99 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 really though ? I mean it's folded around to him in the sb... and its nothing for me to see a flop.... of course i flop the joint...and he goes runner runner boat...errrrrrrr how do ppl put their whole tournament on the line with 2nd pair no draw......against the big stack of the table .... he obv had the boat draw Link to post Share on other sites
edge52 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Wow, he really said that about mexicans?Oh, and I don't think I'm calling pf, but tough beat. Link to post Share on other sites
offset 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 MNYHUNT said, "THE MUSLEMS ARE TAKEING OVER YOUR COUNTRY LIKE THE MEXICANS HAVE TAKEN OVER THE USA" This made me laugh out loud. I mean, THIS MAD ME LAFF OUT LOWD. Link to post Share on other sites
FourFlusher 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Yeah, like the Mexicans are going to just roll over and let them take it. Link to post Share on other sites
Canary3 1 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Yes, against a guy who will give away 100bb with mid pair on a coordinated board the call is horrible.Riiiighhhhhhtttt.....yes! the call was horrible... if we knew this kind of info on the player before the hand, then it makes it even worse, but i doubt we did. If we know this about the player, than why not wait for a better spot and double up easily? With your thinking... we should call every raise he makes with any two cards... that would be silly the preflop call was still horriblebad luck though Link to post Share on other sites
gobears 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Almost 97% to win when all the money went in - you were "Danny Nguyen'd" unfortunately.I don't mind the call preflop - you have a deep stack and can get a little creative.I was thinking that you were still in the rebuy period but 75/150 is right after the rebuy if I remember correctly, so that made villain's play even worse.These kind of hands can really put you on tilt if you're not careful - it's a good test of your character. You play enough, you'll run into these hands but also put this beat on your opponents every so often. Link to post Share on other sites
Canary3 1 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Im not sure how you guys play .... but calling a raise out of position with 6 8 offsuit is not something i like to do. I think that is a little too "creative" for me Link to post Share on other sites
offset 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 yes! the call was horrible... if we knew this kind of info on the player before the hand, then it makes it even worse.If we knew the grass was green, it would most likely be blue. If we know this about the player, than why not wait for a better spot and double up easily? I have a better idea! Why don't we wait for AA, KK, and AK and go all in! With your thinking... we should call every raise he makes with any two cards... that would be silly Of course! Because every situation is exactly the same! the preflop call was still horribleMooooooooo. bad luck thoughAttaboy, mate! Link to post Share on other sites
Canary3 1 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 wow.....I do like grass part... but i think im done here..... keep calling raises in tournaments with hands like 6 8 offsuit out of position.... its +ev Link to post Share on other sites
offset 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 keep calling raises in tournaments with hands like 6 8 offsuit out of position.... its +evNo, it's not. When will you understand? Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Pre-flop, he's in cheap b/c of SB. Guy flops the nut str8 and buddy calls him down with middle pair? Very unlucky. And for those of you who don't like him calling pre-flop to see the next 3 cards, I guess you don't know what gambling is. Lemmings, the cliff is that way!OP, you got unlucky there, but imo it's a push on any street. there's no way you should think the retard has a 5. I'm betting he thinks he's a ****ing genius for calling you down. Link to post Share on other sites
Marc-O 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Author Share Posted June 7, 2006 Pre-flop, he's in cheap b/c of SB. Guy flops the nut str8 and buddy calls him down with middle pair? Very unlucky. And for those of you who don't like him calling pre-flop to see the next 3 cards, I guess you don't know what gambling is. Lemmings, the cliff is that way!OP, you got unlucky there, but imo it's a push on any street. there's no way you should think the retard has a 5. I'm betting he thinks he's a ****ing genius for calling you down.He didn't " call me down ".......he re-rasied my flop raise.......and i put him all in for 10k........and he went into the tank for 2 min before calling... then proceeded to hit a 5... then pair the board.....it's the next morning, and it's still all i can think about.....that and if ill ever get my seat to the main event.but thanks for understanding the preflop call...i called pre flop with full intention on making a play on him if felt the flop missed him......which obv turned out to be one of the most ridiculous beats ive taken...... Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 OK, no call down. I still don't understand why people are down on your SB call to see a flop (youhave the stack for it). Then, when you put him all-in with the nuts, it's the right play to make. Very unlucky to get drawn out on, but it happens. It's still a winning play most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
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