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#1 mmmikeySong

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 11:44 AM

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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 10s.gif 10d.gif
2 folds, Button calls, Hero raises, BB calls, Button calls.

Flop: ad.gif 6s.gif kc.gif (4.5SB, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks.

Turn: 4d.gif (2.25BB, 3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, Button calls.

River: 8d.gif (5.25BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks.

Results:
Final pot: 5.25BB

Since I raised pf, should I have def. bet the flop? and then fold to either a raise, or if called, check/call turn and river? or bet turn and cc river?
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 12:39 PM

Betting that flop is a must. Fold to a raise. The limper is unlikely to have an A or K, and we can't give the BB credit yet for one. Since you raised preflop, its very likely (in theri perception) that you have an A or K.

You should also bet that flop for metagame purposes. Even the worst of opponents will sometimes pick up on tendencies like this.
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#3 aim786

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 12:47 PM

Yup, easy b/f on the flop.

#4 Zach6668

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 12:59 PM

b/f

b/f

c/c

How is that for a line on this one?

Or if we get called on the flop, should we give credit to the caller for a K or A?

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 01:12 PM

QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Sunday, June 4th, 2006, 1:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
b/f

b/f

c/c

How is that for a line on this one?

Or if we get called on the flop, should we give credit to the caller for a K or A?

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I think if both opponents call on the flop, we should give up on the turn. There are no draws, except maybe QJ, on the flop, so we r very likely up against an A or a K.

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 02:02 PM

Yeah, that's what I figured too.

So b/f, c/f if called by both.

If there's only one call, can we make a case for betting the turn?
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#7 gooch

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 03:16 PM

I think you want to bet like you have both the A and the K, since no one re reraised you, you have no reason to belive they have it, what not bet like you do.

Bet, if you get raised, re raise, you may have to do it on the turn too

At best they have a weak ace I think
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#8 mmmikeySong

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 03:50 PM

at this level, they tend to call down w/a weak ace
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 04:48 PM

QUOTE (gooch @ Sunday, June 4th, 2006, 4:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you want to bet like you have both the A and the K, since no one re reraised you, you have no reason to belive they have it, what not bet like you do.

Bet, if you get raised, re raise, you may have to do it on the turn too

At best they have a weak ace I think


Wow that's a fast way to lose a lot of money.

People at this level play all sorts of Ace-rags and King-rags.
And they don't play it just to fold when they hit a piece.

If your opponents have an Ace or even a King, they are going to show it down.
Bet once to see where you are.
After that, hope you can show it down for cheap- as you were able to.

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