6 replies to this topic

[pokerplayer24]

Could have just folded the turn maybe?

But not only that, wtf is with the river fold by BB. Sure the board paired but what hands bet 3-bet the flop then checkraise a capper on the turn then fold a river. Feel almost like I was colluded against.


PokerStars 10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)


Preflop: Hero is MP with 6, 6.
UTG calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 7, 4, 5 (3 players)
BB bets, UTG calls, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, UTG caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 9 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, BB raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (18.25 BB) 5 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB

[jayboogie]

He probably had a flush draw and maybe a straight draw to go with it.

[hotbacon]

I've seen this play a lot with Q 6 type hands.
Of course, they ended up calling the river

[screech]

I hate when players check/raise the field with draws when it's obvious they don't have an equity edge or any fold equity. Oh well.

[pokerplayer24]

I hate when players check/raise the field with draws when it's obvious they don't have an equity edge or any fold equity. Oh well.

moving on to the hand. No way I can possibly fold the turn right?

[AlphaOmega]

I don't think you can fold the turn since you have 8 usually super clean outs in a big pot with big implied odds.

This hand looks like you got cheated with the post-flop action, but I think if they were really teaming you then BB would have bet/folded the river, since that would give them the best chance to make you fold.

Or maybe they were looking to check/raise/3-bet you again? I'd just keep an eye out for their screen names, or maybe email Party and ask them to investigate or keep a close eye on the players in the future.

[flintsword]

Looks to me that the BB had two diamonds with the 6 pushing a diamond flush and an open-ended str8 draw. With all the betting he could put one of the players on a set and cool down completely after he not only missed the flush or draw, but also saw the board paired. Saving a bet at the end there does make some sort of sense if he has his oppontnets tagged as being non-bluffers.

Might have had A 6 , which can be pushed a bit more preflop five-handed.

Just a guess of course, but it fits.

Have you calculated your odds versus a set? You are a 74% dog against top set of 7's and 66% dog against a set of 4's or 5's. This is strictly a heads up calculation. If you give the other player a flush draw, say A K , top set of 7's is a 58% winner, the A K is 25% to win, and you are 15%.

Now, only you know how tight and what range of hands are played by your opponents, so you have to guage how likely you are facing a real hand. It is such a big pot you should give your opponents credit for something, especially at the $10/$20 level.

I can't fault you for pushing an open-ended str8 draw like that but I usually put the breaks on a bit If I get a lot of resistance, because it is a good hand, but not a great hand, when you consider how you stack up to other playable hands

When the flop has a flush draw, you know the str8 draw with 6 6 is roughly 50-50 with a flush draw like A K and you are just feeding the rake for a coinflip, though it can be argued the rake is maximized anyways if the betting is wild. Sure you will be happy to win a big pot but you understand that 50% of the time you are losing a big pot. You are just feeding your variance here.

Then there is the fun times when you make your str8 but also allow the flush .

If you have this open-ended str8, but you are facing an overpair such as 88 or 99, you are a 25% dog.

As long as you are getting the odds, it is ok.

Thanks for posting this hand and good luck in your games.