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#1 strategy

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Posted 27 May 2006 - 07:19 AM

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QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Wednesday, November 2nd, 2011, 4:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
seriously though, with that grammar it's really like, I mean it doesn't bother me as much that she gets beat, you know?


#2 Abbaddabba

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Posted 27 May 2006 - 07:40 AM

How do you know it's a bot?

If it is a bot, it probably has a set way of handling these situations that you can figure out.

Does it ever check/raise the turn as a bluff? If not, it's a bet/fold.

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Posted 27 May 2006 - 07:57 AM

I am also interested in how you know this is a bot.

If you know this, you should have a great read on how it plays, and act accordingly. To me, this seems like an easy turn bet and river bet.

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Posted 27 May 2006 - 08:10 AM

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QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Wednesday, November 2nd, 2011, 4:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
seriously though, with that grammar it's really like, I mean it doesn't bother me as much that she gets beat, you know?


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Posted 27 May 2006 - 09:42 AM

QUOTE (strategy @ Saturday, May 27th, 2006, 6:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought it was common knowledge that WPX's games are filled with bots. I've seen them at all the lower limit hold'em games. Just check out the 2/4 and 3/6 limit hold'em games on WPX and note which players act immediately after the action is on them, generally have way more at the table than the standard buyin, and play for hours on end.

They're pretty insane, really. They don't follow typical lines--they won't always bet when checked to, they won't always lead the turn after check-raising the flop, they bluff-raise in spots where there is no folding equity, and they don't fold very often once they've invested any money on the flop. It's almost like they're acting at random sometimes.


This sounds an awful lot like, for example, me, ever since I started to use a gamepad to play so that I almost always act very fast.

Seriously, can you provide any evidence that there are in fact bots? Not that I would be very surprised if there are, but how do you tell that they are bots? Any half-way decent programmer would make sure that his/her bot wouldn't always take the same action to prevent it from being predictable.

As for the hand, I agree with betting the turn.
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Posted 27 May 2006 - 09:57 AM

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QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Wednesday, November 2nd, 2011, 4:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
seriously though, with that grammar it's really like, I mean it doesn't bother me as much that she gets beat, you know?


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Posted 27 May 2006 - 08:07 PM

QUOTE (Snowman @ Saturday, May 27th, 2006, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Any half-way decent programmer would make sure that his/her bot wouldn't always take the same action to prevent it from being predictable.


The thing is . . . halfway really awful programmers make bots too. That's what makes it so fun.
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Posted 28 May 2006 - 11:46 AM

Didn't Party also fill their games with bots in the early days?

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Posted 28 May 2006 - 08:02 PM

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I thought it was common knowledge that WPX's games are filled with bots. I've seen them at all the lower limit hold'em games. Just check out the 2/4 and 3/6 limit hold'em games on WPX and note which players act immediately after the action is on them, generally have way more at the table than the standard buyin, and play for hours on end.


That sounds a lot like me.


Ive heard a lot of people on AP claim that certain people were bots, but without any real evidence. And a few of them are huge net losers.

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Posted 28 May 2006 - 08:14 PM

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QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Wednesday, November 2nd, 2011, 4:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
seriously though, with that grammar it's really like, I mean it doesn't bother me as much that she gets beat, you know?


#11 Abbaddabba

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Posted 28 May 2006 - 11:00 PM

Considering how little they make in interest off of holding the idle money in players accounts, it's doubtful that they could stick losing bots in there and still turn a profit.

If they had a huge player base (and hence a lot of idle money collecting interest), maybe they could afford to run losing bots. But if that was the case, they wouldnt need to run them.

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 02:01 PM

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QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Wednesday, November 2nd, 2011, 4:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
seriously though, with that grammar it's really like, I mean it doesn't bother me as much that she gets beat, you know?





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