Someone Doesn't Like Me

[Actuary 3]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)1st: $182nd: $123rd: $0Button (t2829)SB (t2998)Hero (t2703)UTG (t3470)Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K. 2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to t350, SB calls t250.Flop: (t700) K, 8, T(2 players)SB checks, Hero bets t600, SB calls t600.Turn: (t1900) K(2 players)SB checks, Hero checks.River: (t1900) 5(2 players)SB pushes, Hero Calls.Pot: 3653 prior to call. I have 1753 leftBefore callnig, I said "I screwd up" But I got what I wanted..he bet hard into my trips. But..at what cost?Would he push a flush this hard?Pushing the turn is normal for me..as it seems to get called by strong draws + pair and eventually marginasl hands if I do it a few times in tourney. They get curious.Or I could value bet like 500, and pretty much have to call any river, with just 1300 left, and a huge pot.So pushing is safe, and sometimes pays off.If he has something like 88, I'm going broke.Thus, if I"ll willnig go broke here either by pushing the turn or calling any river, do I make more this way? And..is it dumb to induce a bluff at this stage, givng infinite odds.I imagine Smash pukes a little here.no particular read on SB.Button had been raising a lot earlier, and had jsut recently lost his chip lead. I've been quite inactive.( this is partly in response to dealing with "the Stopper". The guy that takes pots away and won't believ in cb on the flop )

[mmmikeySong 0]

ugh, he's an odd player if he's willing to go all in w/the flush instead of value bet.by all means he could be thinking "i have a flush - if i go all in, he'll call thinking it's a bluff"You have to call here. This play screams more of bluff than flush or boat.I like the turn check btw, it induces this type of play on the river.

[iggymcfly 0]

1st: $182nd: $123rd: $0

Quit playing for play money.Oh yeah, and bet the turn.

[Actuary 3]

Quit playing for play money.Oh yeah, and bet the turn.

I could lie.1st: $ 3602nd: $ 240lol.I always play a $6 to warm up for now:)

[shpaget 0]

I think you make more, a lot more, betting the turn - be it a value bet, or just pushing, but better to push.Your remaining chips entail less than a pot-sized bet.You push and he's getting 2:1 for one card...a mistake to call if he's on a flush draw or OESD.You bet 500 and he's getting 5:1 (plus implied) and he's NOT making a mistake to call those draws.Make him make a mistake by calling the big turn bet...and make him pay for the draw....and if you take the pot there, great.In MOST cases, if he misses the river you're not getting another cent out of him....your best chance is to get money out of him when he's still drawing....you have to know him to be extremely aggressive to know he'll bluff the river here.And, yes, a flush could definitely push here...you have less than a pot-sized bet so, say he makes a half-pot bet instead...he may as well just put you all-in...at the same time, it depends on his read, if any, of you...there are two types of players when faced with an all-in bet:1. hmmm...he put me all-in...I'm suspicious2. hmmm...he put me all-in...I'm scaredIf I play against #1, I bet all-in with strong hands, and bet small on bluffs...#2 is the opposite. At my regular B&M and my regular home game I have a few players pegged like this...one guy I can Post-Oak bluff all day long...another guy will call all small bets all day long. So, if he perceives you as #1, he could push his flush here.

[Rocketwadster 0]

I hate the turn check. Make the flush draws/straight draws/two pair etc. pay to outdraw you, by pushing there. A small bet will be called/pushed back by most of those draws IMO on the small buy-in tourneys. Very bad river card. I wouldn't fault a call OR a fold (as I believe you are a player who is able to still come back with that amount of chips).

[amarillotg 0]

worst turn check ever.

[Actuary 3]

I dislike my Turn check, not because of missed extra value, but because I could take the pot right there. - a good sized potHowever, if he's not on a FD, he is drawing thin, and I probably make more money checking against certain opponents, imo.He had A8.I play 40 of these a 6 Man SnG's week and there is so much bluffing when you show weakness.

[Rocketwadster 0]

and there is so much bluffing when you show weakness.

agreed. however, you cant overdue the check-to-induce-a-bluff on the turn (on the river perhaps)...

[Actuary 3]

agreed. however, you cant overdue the check-to-induce-a-bluff on the turn (on the river perhaps)...

yeah, I know.I push this turn 85% of the time.I don't think checking it is aweful, metagame wiseIt may buy me a free card later.