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#1 shamhawks

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 07:40 AM

This is my 13th st8 winning session in NL cash games with a total of 680 BB won in about 1000 hands. I know I'm getting lucky, but my instincts feel really good right now and i feel I'm playing some of my best poker, now that I've stopped playing limit as of late (not for good, just enjoying NL for now) I would like some advice on some of these hands***** Hand History for Game 1714168641 *****$25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, March 10, 09:27:33 EDT 2005Table Table 36577 (Real Money)Seat 5 is the buttonTotal number of players : 10 Seat 1: solsken ( $26.4 )Seat 3: phantashia ( $11.35 )Seat 4: BluePig ( $24.25 )Seat 5: blahand ( $20.55 )Seat 6: tcmallen ( $44.5 )Seat 7: Triscuits ( $7.45 )Seat 8: shrec18ew ( $4.05 )Seat 9: jrkitty ( $32.5 )Seat 10: kimotang ( $19.2 )Seat 2: MyHuskies ( $24.75 )tcmallen posts small blind [$0.1].Triscuits posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to MyHuskies [ Ad Kd ]shrec18ew folds.jrkitty calls [$0.25].solsken calls [$0.25].MyHuskies raises [$1].phantashia folds.BluePig folds.blahand folds.tcmallen folds.Triscuits raises [$2.75].jrkitty folds.solsken folds.MyHuskies raises [$7].Triscuits is all-In [$4.45]** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, 4h, 6c ]** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]MyHuskies shows [ Ad, Kd ] two pairs, aces and fours.Triscuits doesn't show [ Kc, Kh ] two pairs, kings and fours.MyHuskies wins $0.5 from side pot #1 with two pairs, aces and fours.MyHuskies wins $14.75 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and fours.Well this one seemed like an easy raise against the short stack. I was more of a dog than i thought, but being i can't get hurt too bad here, easy re-raiseGame #1714169989 starts.$25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, March 10, 09:41:40 EDT 2005Table Table 36577 (Real Money)Seat 3 is the buttonTotal number of players : 10 Seat 1: solsken ( $21.3 )Seat 3: phantashia ( $13.4 )Seat 4: BluePig ( $25.5 )Seat 5: blahand ( $24.8 )Seat 8: shrec18ew ( $3.6 )Seat 10: kimotang ( $19.2 )Seat 2: MyHuskies ( $30.65 )Seat 9: washingtonsm ( $24.75 )Seat 6: Bee92 ( $25.25 )Seat 7: tightweak ( $24.75 )BluePig posts small blind [$0.1].blahand posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to MyHuskies [ Jh Tc ]Bee92 folds.shrec18ew folds.washingtonsm folds.solsken folds.MyHuskies calls [$0.25].phantashia calls [$0.25].BluePig calls [$0.15].blahand checks.** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 7d, 6c ]BluePig checks.blahand checks.MyHuskies bets [$0.35].phantashia raises [$1].BluePig folds.blahand folds.MyHuskies calls [$0.65].** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]MyHuskies checks.phantashia bets [$3].MyHuskies raises [$8].phantashia calls [$5].** Dealing River ** [ 3s ]MyHuskies bets [$5].phantashia is all-In [$4.15]MyHuskies shows [ Jh, Tc ] a straight, seven to jack.phantashia doesn't show [ 9d, 5d ] a straight, five to nine.MyHuskies wins $0.85 from side pot #1 with a straight, seven to jack.MyHuskies wins $25.95 from the main pot with a straight, seven to jack.ok, flop looks good... I make token feel bet...he does fairly small raise back...ok what pair you have with what draw?..I have nut draw and just call...turn is money and to my surprise i get some action. :-) Game #1714193389 starts.$25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, March 10, 09:44:20 EDT 2005Table Table 36577 (Real Money)Seat 6 is the buttonTotal number of players : 9 Seat 1: solsken ( $21.3 )Seat 3: phantashia ( $25 )Seat 4: BluePig ( $25.25 )Seat 5: blahand ( $24.35 )Seat 8: shrec18ew ( $3.35 )Seat 10: kimotang ( $19.2 )Seat 2: MyHuskies ( $43.2 )Seat 9: washingtonsm ( $25.95 )Seat 6: Bee92 ( $24.5 )shrec18ew posts small blind [$0.1].washingtonsm posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to MyHuskies [ Ah As ]solsken folds.MyHuskies raises [$2].phantashia folds.BluePig folds.blahand folds.Bee92 folds.shrec18ew folds.cwil1 has joined the table.washingtonsm raises [$3.5].MyHuskies raises [$6].washingtonsm calls [$4.25].** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, 5c, Jc ]washingtonsm is all-In [$17.95]MyHuskies calls [$17.95].** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]washingtonsm shows [ Ac, Qh ] a flush, ace high.MyHuskies shows [ Ah, As ] a pair of aces.washingtonsm wins $49.4 from the main pot with a flush, ace high.kimotang has left the table.Game #1714197400 starts.Well this one almost ruined my winning streak (did for a couple minutes anyway) I've had my last 3 Aces cracked so when he raises me pre-flop, i go back over the top (should have made larger raise, I'm ok with just winning the pot now, but just raise to $8) flop comes out like crap and he speed bets all-in..I use a lot of my time here and figure he has nut flush draw and call.. sure enough gets his club on the river...This one cuts in to my BB/100 :cry: $25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, March 10, 09:48:28 EDT 2005Table Table 36577 (Real Money)Seat 2 is the buttonTotal number of players : 8 Seat 1: solsken ( $24.6 )Seat 3: phantashia ( $13.5 )Seat 4: BluePig ( $25 )Seat 8: shrec18ew ( $3.25 )Seat 2: MyHuskies ( $16.75 )Seat 9: washingtonsm ( $49.3 )Seat 6: Bee92 ( $35.2 )Seat 7: cwil1 ( $22.1 )BluePig posts small blind [$0.1].Bee92 posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to MyHuskies [ Jd Jc ]cwil1 calls [$0.25].shrec18ew folds.washingtonsm folds.solsken raises [$2].MyHuskies calls [$2].BluePig folds.Bee92 folds.cwil1 folds.** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 6c, Ad ]solsken checks.MyHuskies checks.** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]solsken checks.MyHuskies bets [$3].BigTip has joined the table.solsken calls [$3].** Dealing River ** [ 2d ]solsken checks.MyHuskies bets [$6].solsken calls [$6].MyHuskies shows [ Jd, Jc ] three of a kind, jacks.solsken doesn't show [ Ks, Kc ] a pair of kings.MyHuskies wins $21.5 from the main pot with three of a kind, jacks.PiiiNkFLoOYD has joined the table.This one is kind of tough, but this player is really tight and she played it way to passive (pretty much saying i have Q's or K's take my money) With her pre-flop raise I do put her on Q's or better, when she checks flop, I'm still carefull she might try to trap...she checks the turn, and i get my trips...good to go now...not sure what she will call down with her big cards, so go with half the pot type bets. Anyway, this is a few different type of plays against different situations...tell me what you think.

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 07:48 AM

Keep riding it out as long as it lasts. Just remember, with NL cash as opposed to Limit, the variance is much higher. When your on a hot streak it feels like your on top of the world, but when you start running cold, you can drop a signifigant amount and in a hurry. GL and keep up the winnings.L* :D
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Posted 10 March 2005 - 07:53 AM

***** Hand History for Game 1714168641 *****$25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, March 10, 09:27:33 EDT 2005Table Table 36577 (Real Money)Seat 5 is the buttonTotal number of players : 10 Seat 1: solsken ( $26.4 )Seat 3: phantashia ( $11.35 )Seat 4: BluePig ( $24.25 )Seat 5: blahand ( $20.55 )Seat 6: tcmallen ( $44.5 )Seat 7: Triscuits ( $7.45 )Seat 8: shrec18ew ( $4.05 )Seat 9: jrkitty ( $32.5 )Seat 10: kimotang ( $19.2 )Seat 2: MyHuskies ( $24.75 )tcmallen posts small blind [$0.1].Triscuits posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to MyHuskies [ Ad Kd ]shrec18ew folds.jrkitty calls [$0.25].solsken calls [$0.25].MyHuskies raises [$1].phantashia folds.BluePig folds.blahand folds.tcmallen folds.Triscuits raises [$2.75].jrkitty folds.solsken folds.MyHuskies raises [$7].Triscuits is all-In [$4.45]** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, 4h, 6c ]** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]MyHuskies shows [ Ad, Kd ] two pairs, aces and fours.Triscuits doesn't show [ Kc, Kh ] two pairs, kings and fours.MyHuskies wins $0.5 from side pot #1 with two pairs, aces and fours.MyHuskies wins $14.75 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and fours.Well this one seemed like an easy raise against the short stack. I was more of a dog than i thought, but being i can't get hurt too bad here, easy re-raiseagainst a short stack, there in so reason to lay this down.if he had a deep stack, i would have smooth called his reraise and checked the flop out....... very cautiously though. and how can u bust a guy that's named after a delicious snack??? how rudeGame #1714169989 starts.$25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, March 10, 09:41:40 EDT 2005Table Table 36577 (Real Money)Seat 3 is the buttonTotal number of players : 10 Seat 1: solsken ( $21.3 )Seat 3: phantashia ( $13.4 )Seat 4: BluePig ( $25.5 )Seat 5: blahand ( $24.8 )Seat 8: shrec18ew ( $3.6 )Seat 10: kimotang ( $19.2 )Seat 2: MyHuskies ( $30.65 )Seat 9: washingtonsm ( $24.75 )Seat 6: Bee92 ( $25.25 )Seat 7: tightweak ( $24.75 )BluePig posts small blind [$0.1].blahand posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to MyHuskies [ Jh Tc ]Bee92 folds.shrec18ew folds.washingtonsm folds.solsken folds.MyHuskies calls [$0.25].phantashia calls [$0.25].BluePig calls [$0.15].blahand checks.** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 7d, 6c ]BluePig checks.blahand checks.MyHuskies bets [$0.35].phantashia raises [$1].BluePig folds.blahand folds.MyHuskies calls [$0.65].** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]MyHuskies checks.phantashia bets [$3].MyHuskies raises [$8].phantashia calls [$5].** Dealing River ** [ 3s ]MyHuskies bets [$5].phantashia is all-In [$4.15]MyHuskies shows [ Jh, Tc ] a straight, seven to jack.phantashia doesn't show [ 9d, 5d ] a straight, five to nine.MyHuskies wins $0.85 from side pot #1 with a straight, seven to jack.MyHuskies wins $25.95 from the main pot with a straight, seven to jack.ok, flop looks good... I make token feel bet...he does fairly small raise back...ok what pair you have with what draw?..I have nut draw and just call...turn is money and to my surprise i get some action. :-) this was shaky... when you bet your gutshot/overs, its hard to call any raise. he was stupid to only raise you a little. you appear to think your hand was stronger than it really was. i might have chosen an opponent with a deeper stack to make such an implied odds oriented play as well.Game #1714193389 starts.$25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, March 10, 09:44:20 EDT 2005Table Table 36577 (Real Money)Seat 6 is the buttonTotal number of players : 9 Seat 1: solsken ( $21.3 )Seat 3: phantashia ( $25 )Seat 4: BluePig ( $25.25 )Seat 5: blahand ( $24.35 )Seat 8: shrec18ew ( $3.35 )Seat 10: kimotang ( $19.2 )Seat 2: MyHuskies ( $43.2 )Seat 9: washingtonsm ( $25.95 )Seat 6: Bee92 ( $24.5 )shrec18ew posts small blind [$0.1].washingtonsm posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to MyHuskies [ Ah As ]solsken folds.MyHuskies raises [$2].phantashia folds.BluePig folds.blahand folds.Bee92 folds.shrec18ew folds.cwil1 has joined the table.washingtonsm raises [$3.5].MyHuskies raises [$6].washingtonsm calls [$4.25].** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, 5c, Jc ]washingtonsm is all-In [$17.95]MyHuskies calls [$17.95].** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]washingtonsm shows [ Ac, Qh ] a flush, ace high.MyHuskies shows [ Ah, As ] a pair of aces.washingtonsm wins $49.4 from the main pot with a flush, ace high.kimotang has left the table.Game #1714197400 starts.Well this one almost ruined my winning streak (did for a couple minutes anyway) I've had my last 3 Aces cracked so when he raises me pre-flop, i go back over the top (should have made larger raise, I'm ok with just winning the pot now, but just raise to $8) flop comes out like crap and he speed bets all-in..I use a lot of my time here and figure he has nut flush draw and call.. sure enough gets his club on the river...This one cuts in to my BB/100 :cry: i would have put him all in pre flop. he played this hand poorly, and you made the right call. i don't see what he would have made this bet with that beat you. if he had JJ, he would have surely trapped. Your flop play was fine... just a bad break.$25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, March 10, 09:48:28 EDT 2005Table Table 36577 (Real Money)Seat 2 is the buttonTotal number of players : 8 Seat 1: solsken ( $24.6 )Seat 3: phantashia ( $13.5 )Seat 4: BluePig ( $25 )Seat 8: shrec18ew ( $3.25 )Seat 2: MyHuskies ( $16.75 )Seat 9: washingtonsm ( $49.3 )Seat 6: Bee92 ( $35.2 )Seat 7: cwil1 ( $22.1 )BluePig posts small blind [$0.1].Bee92 posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to MyHuskies [ Jd Jc ]cwil1 calls [$0.25].shrec18ew folds.washingtonsm folds.solsken raises [$2].MyHuskies calls [$2].BluePig folds.Bee92 folds.cwil1 folds.** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 6c, Ad ]solsken checks.MyHuskies checks.** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]solsken checks.MyHuskies bets [$3].BigTip has joined the table.solsken calls [$3].** Dealing River ** [ 2d ]solsken checks.MyHuskies bets [$6].solsken calls [$6].MyHuskies shows [ Jd, Jc ] three of a kind, jacks.solsken doesn't show [ Ks, Kc ] a pair of kings.MyHuskies wins $21.5 from the main pot with three of a kind, jacks.PiiiNkFLoOYD has joined the table.This one is kind of tough, but this player is really tight and she played it way to passive (pretty much saying i have Q's or K's take my money) With her pre-flop raise I do put her on Q's or better, when she checks flop, I'm still carefull she might try to trap...she checks the turn, and i get my trips...good to go now...not sure what she will call down with her big cards, so go with half the pot type bets. good play, and a nice turn card. she severely misplayed this hand, as she should have bet the flop, and you would have had to fold IMO. good hand, and good way to get paid.overall, not bad.

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 07:54 AM

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Keep riding it out as long as it lasts. Just remember, with NL cash as opposed to Limit, the variance is much higher. When your on a hot streak it feels like your on top of the world, but when you start running cold, you can drop a signifigant amount and in a hurry. GL and keep up the winnings.L* :D
You got that right. I feel that i may never lose again :-) even when i got my aces cracked, it was seemed like no big deal and i even told the guy nice hand (something i hardly ever do) That's why i'm having so much fun now, cuz in limit, I just don't get the emotional highs that come from NL

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 08:11 AM

here are some comments...hand 1: AK of diamondsperfectly fine. open raise of 4xbb straight, pot-sized re-raise is perfectly fine.hand 2: JTovery loose call pre-flop. i never play JTo unless i get a free flop from the big blind. it's not good enough to be a premium-type hand (against any other broadway you are either dominated or you are a big dog), and it's not good enough to be a drawing hand (not suited, trip tens or jacks might not be the best hand, two pair gives possible straight draw to many playable hands). i would highly recommend not playing JTo.the flop play was fine. you had overcards with a gutshot draw on an unsuited board, and you bet small mainly to steal and to get control of the hand. you get raised, but you still had more than correct implied odds to chase your gutshot, so it's an easy call.on the turn check-raise, it was a good idea, but i would have raised a little more than just $5 (which isn't even triple the bet)... i would have probably made a pot-sized raise of around $8 on top or $9 on top, but no big deal. you mainly just want to get paid off so that your gutshots are profitable (if you're not getting paid off enough when you hit them, then you're losing money everytime you're chasing them). since he was so short-stacked, however, the raise was probably fine.you finished him off on the river, so that's fine. the only argument for raising his stack on the turn is so that he doesn't chicken out on the river if it comes a T for example (since he's then playing the board and any J beats him), but given these limits, very few fish would fold even if they were playing the board. so in hindsight, your raise was fine as long as you finished him off on the river, which you did.biggest advice: don't play JTo.hand 3: AAwhy such a strong open raise, and why such a weak re-raise??? if you'd been opening for 4xbb, do it again with AA. ignoring that, your re-raise was way too weak. let's see, 35c in the pot from blinds, you make it $2 to go, washingtonsm makes it $3.50 to go, so now the pot is almost $6. with your call, it'll be around $7.50, so you should raise around $7 or $8 on top of your call (a pot-sized re-raise). instead, you raised $4.50. not too big of a deal, but get in the habit of making pot-sized raises and re-raises when you're not opening the pot... it's good value and it's also aggressive enough to make people fold.on the flop, the call was fine. i would have put him on the A-high flush draw also, and you're way ahead of that, even if he has AJ. it's mostly a race, but since you're ahead, it's a good cash-game call (you're around a 60-40 favorite).hand 4: JJyou played it great. checked when you were behind, bet when you were ahead.my other advice to you is to stop worrying about your number of consecutive winning sessions or your bb/100, that's just going to mess up your play in NL everytime you're afraid to push in or whatnot. it's really a terrible habit to get in... daniel wrote an article about people who are too results-based and always want to record a winning session. it's just not good play.good luck,aseem

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 08:26 AM

aseem,Thanks, I completly agree with you. The JTo hand...I don't make a habbit of calling here, but i was in position and first in the pot...maybe i should have raised for a blind steal? but just should have folded pre-flop like usual. I have to remember that even though the blinds are so low here, i still have to play good poker...sometimes it's so easy to see a flop for .25 and I do think my post-flop play is fairly decent to make up for loose pre-flop callsAs for my streak...Your right again... I'm just one of those stat guys that like to put numbers on things, but it's a negative

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 09:28 AM

playing JT in that spot was fine in my opinion. although, i do think in that circumstance you need to come in for a raise and not a call.




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