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1st time posting a hand forgive the no convertingstill learning, just want some critiquehand 1$25 PL Omaha - Tuesday, May 23, 18:47:18 ET 2006Table Table 95214 (No DP) (Real Money)Seat 10 is the buttonTotal number of players : 9 Seat 5: Aidan1888 ( $29.71 )Seat 10: Th3rdOLawA ( $53.14 )Seat 7: Breauxdel ( $31.15 )Seat 2: omnokion ( $25 )Seat 8: gammalight ( $33.37 )Seat 4: LifeIsGr8 ( $8.60 )Seat 3: warlock1031 ( $24.55 )Seat 6: PERRYKAT56 ( $24.65 )Seat 1: Pipati4Ever ( $24.75 )Pipati4Ever posts small blind [$0.10].omnokion posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to Breauxdel [ 5h 9c Qh Kc ]warlock1031 calls [$0.25].LifeIsGr8 folds.>You have options at Table 96428 (No DP) Table!.Aidan1888 folds.PERRYKAT56 calls [$0.25].Breauxdel calls [$0.25].gammalight folds.Th3rdOLawA folds.Pipati4Ever calls [$0.15].omnokion checks.** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 7h, Jc ]>You have options at Table 96428 (No DP) Table!.Pipati4Ever checks.omnokion checks.warlock1031 checks.PERRYKAT56 bets [$1.20].Breauxdel raises [$4.80].hand 2***** Hand History for Game 4343990370 *****$25 PL Omaha - Tuesday, May 23, 18:58:40 ET 2006Table Clover Club (No DP) (Real Money)Seat 3 is the buttonTotal number of players : 10 Seat 1: SevenSuited ( $24.15 )Seat 2: Olgoat05 ( $25.70 )Seat 3: tdog48_2001 ( $9.40 )Seat 4: dogger94 ( $20.43 )Seat 5: pzhon ( $32.15 )Seat 6: Remmy4_01 ( $21.75 )Seat 7: Ingot ( $25.02 )Seat 8: mkurtime ( $23.90 )Seat 9: Breauxdel ( $58.60 )Seat 10: student45 ( $38.60 )dogger94 posts small blind [$0.10].pzhon posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to Breauxdel [ Kc Ac Ks 4s ]>You have options at Table 96428 (No DP) Table!.>You have options at Table 95214 (No DP) Table!.Remmy4_01 calls [$0.25].Ingot calls [$0.25].mkurtime folds.Breauxdel calls [$0.25].student45 folds.SevenSuited folds.Olgoat05 folds.tdog48_2001 calls [$0.25].dogger94 calls [$0.15].pzhon checks.** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, 6c, 3c ]dogger94 checks.>You have options at Table 96428 (No DP) Table!.pzhon bets [$1.45].>You have options at Table 95214 (No DP) Table!.Remmy4_01 calls [$1.45].Ingot calls [$1.45].Breauxdel calls [$1.45].>You have options at Table 95214 (No DP) Table!.tdog48_2001 folds.dogger94 folds.** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]pzhon checks.Remmy4_01 checks.>You have options at Table 95214 (No DP) Table!.Ingot checks.Breauxdel bets [$6.95]

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Hand #1: I would just call the flop bet as you have 11 pure outs (3 8's, 3 A's, 3 10's and 2 9's). Your heart draw might not be good and you could easily be behind to a flopped straight or a set.Hand #2: Looks fine - I raise there with the nut flush draw/2nd nut flush draw plus you could take it down right there.

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I would probablly play both hands the same. However, there's nothing wrong with just calling the flop with the first hand.

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i think this converter works for PLOhttp://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converterto the hands, im just learning PLO but i would usually fold hand 1 pre-flop. too-tight?
Yeah, that's tight. In fact, if I'm in the cutoff I'm raising.
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Hand 1 I would fold pre-flop. As you played it, I would probably just call the flop, afraid that my opponent would re-pot it with the made straight. Hand 2 looks good.

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Hand 1 I would fold pre-flop. As you played it, I would probably just call the flop, afraid that my opponent would re-pot it with the made straight. Hand 2 looks good.
I can't believe all the people who are saying fold preflop. I'd raise it before I'd fold it. It's got a dangler, but it's double suited and has a lot of possibilities.
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Hand 1 I would fold pre-flop. As you played it, I would probably just call the flop, afraid that my opponent would re-pot it with the made straight. Hand 2 looks good.
hand1: Why are we worried about him repotting it w/ the made str8? As long as he doesn't have a better flush draw to go w/ it, we're crushing a made str8 right now. even if he's sharing kq w/ us we're ahead. I'm only worried about a heart draw not being good. which will usually put as at about 2:1 dog. (Worst case is something like 20:1 though). I think most of the time we're atleast 50/50 or crushing him if he's god a made str8. I really like post flop w/ hand 1. i hope he's god something like a made str8.As a tangent, could anyone of you fold a hand like 8h 9h jd qd in the villian's position?Hand 2: looks good to me.
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RESULTS:hand1: EP guy called flop bet, orig potter folded. non heart 9 on turn, got paid offHand 2:no callersboth worked out great but trying to be play orientated not results
What called you on hand 1? It'd be scared at that point that my hearts were dead.
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