bobbywithani 0 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 BB is70/28/.8 AF after 71 handsParty Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, A. UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero raises, 4 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.Flop: (6.50 SB) 3, 5, 6(3 players)BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG folds.Turn: (4.25 BB) T(2 players)BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls.River: (12.25 BB) 3(2 players)BB bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 14.25 BBSure he is loose, but his post-flop agressiveness is pretty low, so is this river just a call? Link to post Share on other sites
aim786 0 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I was just reading an article about how a high VPIP and a low AF does not necessarily mean a player is passive. I think I know why, but I'm not too sure why, so I'm hoping someone could explain.Having said that, I think you should raise the river. There are a ton of draws on this board that he may very well be jamming on the turn that all miss the river. He could easily be bluffing with these hands on the river. Furthermore, any hand like KT, AT, QT, JT, T9, T8 (especially in spades) is paying you off too. 65 just got counterfeited, so I think a raise is in order. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I was just reading an article about how a high VPIP and a low AF does not necessarily mean a player is passive. I think I know why, but I'm not too sure why, so I'm hoping someone could explain.Having said that, I think you should raise the river. There are a ton of draws on this board that he may very well be jamming on the turn that all miss the river. He could easily be bluffing with these hands on the river. Furthermore, any hand like KT, AT, QT, JT, T9, T8 (especially in spades) is paying you off too. 65 just got counterfeited, so I think a raise is in order.Ugh... I used to be able to explain it, but now I'm rusty...Here's a good article...http://www.overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/AggressionFactor Link to post Share on other sites
bobbywithani 0 Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 I've been overthinking myself since getting PT. Thanks for the article. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 0.8 AF is very high for someone with a 70VPiPu c y?becuse he is getting very aggressive with ANY PIECE..since he plays so many hands...he must call a lot too...so in order to have a 0.8 AF while still playing a ton of hands, he is usually betting/raising his semi-decent and better onesBut more importantly...players with these stats are bad. They slow play sets on coordinated boards, and don't raise AA from the Button for deception..etc.just be aware that 70/x/0.8 is not passive post flop.I don't raise the river...- you can't fold to a raise- you have to be good 2/3 times.**************read replies now...didn't read article.55/66/33 still not counterfeitedI don't have balls to raise here, NL talking I guess. Link to post Share on other sites
AlphaOmega 0 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 I'd raise this river. There are a lot of two pair combos that just got counterfeited, and a villain this dumb could be going berserk with just TP.Actuary,We don't need to be ahead 2/3 times since that villain will three-bet hands that we beat given his stats. If we needed to be ahead 66% of the time it would be a lot closer. Link to post Share on other sites
Rocketwadster 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 I'd be scared to raise that river with that turn action, although a lot of hands that may play like that just got counterfeighted... Link to post Share on other sites
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