tv_nutrafin 0 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 pretty much as the title describes......who do you think's gonna take this one and who would you put your money on. Link to post Share on other sites
rookie2619 0 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 10 years ago, no question Gracie. Right now, Matt Hughes. He's just too tough, he can box, wrestle-grapple, he has excellent submissions. He's all around just too good right now. Submissions are easier to defend these days for these great fighters unlike the old days. I expect hughes to pound him pretty bad.Hughes by TKO. Link to post Share on other sites
The Czar 0 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I went to college with Hughes and saw him beat the Sh#t out of a guy outside the bar he worked at, so based on that, I'll go with Hughes. Link to post Share on other sites
ol'number7 0 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I'm looking forward to watching this on ppv this weekend -- very curious as to what the betting line will be, I expect Hughes to be a solid favorite. As soon as I see a line, I'll post it -- I'll be cheering for Royce, but Rookie2619 is probably right on this one Link to post Share on other sites
Yoda 1 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I'm thinking Hughes will win it but there is always the chance he gets himself caught in a submission. If anyone can do it, Gracie can. This is gonna be a great fight if Gracie can avoid getting pounded too much early on with stand up. Link to post Share on other sites
The Czar 0 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 When is this match? Link to post Share on other sites
seanmalone 0 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 SaturdayHughes is going to pound on him but we have all seen it before when he takes a lot of the punches and still finds a way to pull off a submission. It will be interesting to see what he can do (gracie) after some time off. Link to post Share on other sites
ol'number7 0 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I found one line, Royce is +2-1 and hughes -2.6-1. I don't see a real bargain either way. I think the format is 3 5-minute rounds, I think if Hughes plays it safe you have 15 mins of boring ground-and-pound leading to a decision win for Hughes. I hope its more exciting than that Link to post Share on other sites
HtotheNootch 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 My BJJ instructor says that he "has to go with Royce", because he's a Jiu Jitsu guy. However, he admits that Hughes has improved his Jiu Jitsu,Unfortunately, I agree with the above poster who said it will most likely be three boring rounds and a Hughes decision. Unless Hughes makes a mistake, and Royce can trap him in something I don't see Royce winning. Royce won't submit so we're looking at a decision. The way the UFC is geared, Royce won't get points for holding Hughes in his guard and surviving so the decision will go to Hughes.If this was a no time limit fight, I could see different outcomes, but given the structure... Link to post Share on other sites
rookie2619 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 His last fight was in Dec of 2003. he wasnt wearing his trademark gear. Link to post Share on other sites
ol'number7 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Royce fought Chad Rowan (Akebono) 12/31/2004 and beat him by submission (wrist-lock). Rowan is listed at 6'8" 484 lbs, thats pretty impressive. Royce fought to a draw against Hideo Tokoro (career record 13-11) 12/31/2005, he is listed at 5'7"150 lbs, thats not so impressive. Source: FCFighter.com Link to post Share on other sites
supertouch 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 i think hughes is going to get him but you never know cause out of nowhere royce could throw a submission on him.anyone else think the last elimination fight in ultimate fighter 3 was bs? Link to post Share on other sites
ol'number7 0 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 latest line: Hughes -360 Gracie + 280. Most internet chat I've seen are predicting an easy win for Hughes, looks like the money is coming in that direction too Link to post Share on other sites
capthowdy981 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Hughes easy. His arms are too short to pull off any armbars. Can;t wait for Hughes v GSP Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 old days..old format... Gracienew format.. reluctantly... Hughes.I"m buying this out of respect for Gracie :Dtired of waiting for NetFlix. Link to post Share on other sites
The Czar 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Can someone please post the results in here as soon as it's over? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
tv_nutrafin 0 Posted May 27, 2006 Author Share Posted May 27, 2006 I will when I find out, what time is this fight I can't find it out Link to post Share on other sites
LAS22 0 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 PPV begins at 10pm EST.Hughes by a ref stoppage in the 2nd round is my guess. Link to post Share on other sites
LAS22 0 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Hughes killed Gracie. Fight stopped with a few seconds left in the 1st round. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafs 142 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Hughes wins by Big John stopping the fight just over 4 minutes into the 1st. The fight went to the ground about a minute in and Hughes controlled the whole time. He got Gracie in an arm bar and I can't believe (well, I can) that Royce didn't tap out. His arm looked like it was bent back completely. Hughes wound up getting on Gracie's back and just absolutely pounded the **** out of him. Link to post Share on other sites
ol'number7 0 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 what a sad fight, I'm shocked it was THAT easy. Royce has balls, he would not tap when arm-barred, Matt could've broken it but didn't. Seeing Gracie in the locker room after the fight with his face all hammered up and looking very dejected was a very sad image -- too bad, wish he would've done better here Link to post Share on other sites
supertouch 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 did anyone see the flying knee the red headed dude connected with in the fight after the hughes/gracie match. it was sick. Link to post Share on other sites
seanmalone 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 did anyone see the flying knee the red headed dude connected with in the fight after the hughes/gracie match. it was sick.That was the greatest knee i have ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 I can't watch when the arm is about to snap.Please, just TAP!I think it was Sakurab that broke a Gracies arm once and the dude was not going to quit. Link to post Share on other sites
ol'number7 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 I can't watch when the arm is about to snap.Please, just TAP!I think it was Sakurab that broke a Gracies arm once and the dude was not going to quit.yes that was against Renzo Gracie in a Pride event, I'll never forget it -- his shoulder dislocated and broke, Sakuraba continued bending and twisting it behind his head, it was just brutal to watch, Gracie never did tap I believe the ref stopped it Link to post Share on other sites
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