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Royce Gracie Or Matt Hughes


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#1 tv_nutrafin

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 07:20 PM

pretty much as the title describes......who do you think's gonna take this one and who would you put your money on.

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 07:29 PM

10 years ago, no question Gracie. Right now, Matt Hughes. He's just too tough, he can box, wrestle-grapple, he has excellent submissions. He's all around just too good right now. Submissions are easier to defend these days for these great fighters unlike the old days. I expect hughes to pound him pretty bad.
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Posted 23 May 2006 - 06:23 AM

I went to college with Hughes and saw him beat the Sh#t out of a guy outside the bar he worked at, so based on that, I'll go with Hughes.
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Posted 23 May 2006 - 10:21 AM

I'm looking forward to watching this on ppv this weekend -- very curious as to what the betting line will be, I expect Hughes to be a solid favorite. As soon as I see a line, I'll post it -- I'll be cheering for Royce, but Rookie2619 is probably right on this one
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Posted 23 May 2006 - 11:28 AM

I'm thinking Hughes will win it but there is always the chance he gets himself caught in a submission. If anyone can do it, Gracie can. This is gonna be a great fight if Gracie can avoid getting pounded too much early on with stand up.


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Posted 23 May 2006 - 01:21 PM

When is this match?
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Posted 23 May 2006 - 01:36 PM

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Hughes is going to pound on him but we have all seen it before when he takes a lot of the punches and still finds a way to pull off a submission. It will be interesting to see what he can do (gracie) after some time off.
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Posted 23 May 2006 - 03:23 PM

I found one line, Royce is +2-1 and hughes -2.6-1. I don't see a real bargain either way. I think the format is 3 5-minute rounds, I think if Hughes plays it safe you have 15 mins of boring ground-and-pound leading to a decision win for Hughes. I hope its more exciting than that
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Posted 23 May 2006 - 08:56 PM

My BJJ instructor says that he "has to go with Royce", because he's a Jiu Jitsu guy. However, he admits that Hughes has improved his Jiu Jitsu,

Unfortunately, I agree with the above poster who said it will most likely be three boring rounds and a Hughes decision. Unless Hughes makes a mistake, and Royce can trap him in something I don't see Royce winning. Royce won't submit so we're looking at a decision. The way the UFC is geared, Royce won't get points for holding Hughes in his guard and surviving so the decision will go to Hughes.

If this was a no time limit fight, I could see different outcomes, but given the structure...
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Posted 23 May 2006 - 09:26 PM

His last fight was in Dec of 2003. he wasnt wearing his trademark gear.



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Posted 24 May 2006 - 08:41 AM

Royce fought Chad Rowan (Akebono) 12/31/2004 and beat him by submission (wrist-lock). Rowan is listed at 6'8" 484 lbs, thats pretty impressive. Royce fought to a draw against Hideo Tokoro (career record 13-11) 12/31/2005, he is listed at 5'7"150 lbs, thats not so impressive. Source: FCFighter.com
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 01:54 PM

i think hughes is going to get him but you never know cause out of nowhere royce could throw a submission on him.


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Posted 25 May 2006 - 01:55 PM

latest line: Hughes -360 Gracie + 280. Most internet chat I've seen are predicting an easy win for Hughes, looks like the money is coming in that direction too
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Posted 25 May 2006 - 07:48 PM

Hughes easy. His arms are too short to pull off any armbars.

Can;t wait for Hughes v GSP

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Posted 26 May 2006 - 10:56 AM

old days..old format... Gracie
new format.. reluctantly... Hughes.

I"m buying this out of respect for Gracie biggrin.gif

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Posted 26 May 2006 - 02:01 PM

Can someone please post the results in here as soon as it's over? Thanks.
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Posted 27 May 2006 - 02:53 PM

I will when I find out, what time is this fight I can't find it out

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Posted 27 May 2006 - 05:30 PM

PPV begins at 10pm EST.

Hughes by a ref stoppage in the 2nd round is my guess.

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Posted 27 May 2006 - 08:03 PM

Hughes killed Gracie. Fight stopped with a few seconds left in the 1st round.

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Posted 27 May 2006 - 08:04 PM

Hughes wins by Big John stopping the fight just over 4 minutes into the 1st. The fight went to the ground about a minute in and Hughes controlled the whole time. He got Gracie in an arm bar and I can't believe (well, I can) that Royce didn't tap out. His arm looked like it was bent back completely. Hughes wound up getting on Gracie's back and just absolutely pounded the **** out of him.
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