Virgin Plo Post

[Actuary 3]

hi,all i know is pos matters, and that's about it.honestly, I haven't read anything or spent much time in here...but if you're nice to me, I may learn to play your little gameAnd then we can be friendsAnd go get Ice-cream together.So..about the converter...What do you use to convert ?**********************$25 PLO8 HandedYourDadCheksOutMyAss is in CO with Qh Td 9h 8d UTG Raise to $0.85, YourDadCheksOutMyAss Calls, Button Calls, SB Calls, BB CallsPot:( $4.05) ($0.20 Rake)Flop: [ 8c, Th, 3d ]Blinds check, UTG Checks, YourDadCheksOutMyAss bet $4.05....Should I r/r preflop to get the button.My thought was that pf raises were uncommon here, and Button was not likely to call, given prior hands' actions. Then again, my flat call may have been all the incentive he needed.Fold preflop?Flop bet over zealous?I felt this was a good board for my hand and position.Thanks.

[dingas 0]

You could reraise preflop to try to win the button, but it's risky to reopen the betting giving UTG a chance to re-re-raise when you end up putting a large portion of your stack in preflop in a coinflip at best. Being in the cutoff with position on the pf raiser is not that bad a spot to be in with your hand. One benefit to re-raising would be to vary your play letting people know that you may re-raise with hands other than AAxx, although at that level, I doubt if it makes any difference.(If there was no raise in front of me, I would definitely open raise with this hand, though.)I don't see any reason not to bet the flop.

[bdc30 0]

Two pair sucks balls in omaha.I wouldn't be pushing this one too hard.A feeler bet on the flop is fine, but unless youfill up, or spike your jack, if you get any actionon the turn you have to be VERY careful with top 2.

[Actuary 3]

Two pair sucks balls in omaha.

even on this board and this position?

[bdc30 0]

even on this board and this position?

On every board, in every position.Even bottom set is for suckers.Ask Smash.

[Scott3705 0]

Two pair sucks balls in omaha.I wouldn't be pushing this one too hard.A feeler bet on the flop is fine, but unless youfill up, or spike your jack, if you get any actionon the turn you have to be VERY careful with top 2.

I agree that you have to be very careful, but I don't mind the bet here. If we get some one betting into us on a nothing board. we know that we have to be pretty careful.

[gobears 0]

Not sure about preflop, I would limp just b/c I don't want to be reraised with that hand. I'd rather see a flop cheaply but then I'm just getting my feet wet in PLO also (e.g. I probably suck).Post-flop, I would pot it. No flush draws out there, unlikely someone hit top/middle set since you have the 10/8. I like having outs to nut draws and the 10/J both provide that.If there's a good chance you have the best hand, then you have to bet out strongly.

[bdc30 0]

Post-flop, I would pot it. No flush draws out there, unlikely someone hit top/middle set since you have the 10/8. I like having outs to nut draws and the 10/J both provide that.If there's a good chance you have the best hand, then you have to bet out strongly.

What happens when it comes back to us re-potted?Are we calling??(I'm certainly not, with two pairs)For your second point, rarely does the "best hand" after the flopend up the be the winner by showdown. The value in the hand above comes from the combined value both of the hand we HAVEand the hands we are DRAWING at.I agree we need to bet the flop, but I'm not potting it, and I'm certainly folding if we feel too much heat.

[Scott3705 0]

What happens when it comes back to us re-potted?Are we calling??(I'm certainly not, with two pairs)For your second point, rarely does the "best hand" after the flopend up the be the winner by showdown. The value in the hand above comes from the combined value both of the hand we HAVEand the hands we are DRAWING at.I agree we need to bet the flop, but I'm not potting it, and I'm certainly folding if we feel too much heat.

I'm sorta wantedt o play this hand like a NL Top pair unsure kicker. Make a bet and fold if we see any heat. As far as not betting the pot.... I don't see much non-pot betting in Omaha until the river. Flop and turn bets seem to always be pot.

[....Ian.... 0]

actuary, hand looks fine to me, top 2 with position is pottable.but rememeber that you are gonna lose sometimes to bottom set.

[gobears 0]

What happens when it comes back to us re-potted?Are we calling??(I'm certainly not, with two pairs)For your second point, rarely does the "best hand" after the flopend up the be the winner by showdown. The value in the hand above comes from the combined value both of the hand we HAVEand the hands we are DRAWING at.I agree we need to bet the flop, but I'm not potting it, and I'm certainly folding if we feel too much heat.

I would fold if villain repots. I usually give credit when a player repots unless proven otherwise by his play.I still like to bet out when I think that I have the best hand at that moment - with no flush draws on this board, I'm really only concerned with wrap draws and made sets. I don't want to give overcards or overpairs a free look at the next card.On boards where it is highly coordinated with flush and straight draws, I would be more inclined to check in position and fire on the turn if a safe card falls.I mainly play on PS (1/2 and 2/4) and the typical postflop bet is a "pot" - it just seems that players either pot, call, repot or fold..

[greatwhite 0]

Raise preflop. Potting the flop is fine.

[iggymcfly 0]

Don't listen to the weak-tights. Potting here is fine. I'd say that when I bet the flop, I pot it about 80-90% of the time, and given your hand and position, this is well within the right range. Most of the time here, you're either getting folded to or called with a draw. Occasionally, you'll get repopped or somebody will be slowplaying a set, but that's no big deal. The repop can easily be folded to, and the slowplay doesn't happen often enough to be a major concern. Top two in position is only a bad hand if you're a bad player.Oh, and as for re-raising, I don't think it's necessary here. The situations where you reraise PF in PLO without AA and a short enough stack that you're trying to commit yourself are few and far between.

[Rocketwadster 0]

I would not advocate re-raising pre-flop to get the button. I would pot it on the flop like you did. If original pre-flop raiser re-pots it, I would call/push (exact stack sizes would come into play here), as it will usually be aces. If someone else pots it back to us, well, depending on the stack sizes again, it may be a fold.

[JacKingOff_suit 0]

Pot the flop to win it there or to get information. The callers are likely to have drawing hands or set 3s. The raiser(s)? you may choose to fold or to call depending on their stacks and positions. You still have outs if their stacks are deep.

[timwakefield 69]

Definitely a playable hand. If you are sitting at this table for a long time and you think other players are paying attention, you could pot it preflop. If you only ever reraise with aces or kings, players will know when you have aces or kings. Good hand to mix it up and induce action.....then you just need to make a straight.