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[KDawgCometh]

I feel I should've just dumped it PF, but this guy pretty much ignored position and kickers, so I thought a PF three bet with this hand might show him I had something. I really think this hand is a good demonstration in frustration from a session I had where every good hand I got was cracked and any decent hand I had was either dominated or missed. Second best hands were winning against me too. anyway have at it, as I know I played it bad, but I really want info as It could very well help me in teh future during downswings(like now)Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with [A :heart: ], [J :spade: ]. UTG raises, Hero calls.Flop: (8.50 SB) [4 :spade: ], [2 :heart: ], [J :heart: ] (2 players)Hero bets, Hero calls.Turn: (6.25 BB) [3 :heart: ] (2 players)Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.River: (8.25 BB) [2 :diamond: ] (2 players)Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 10.25 BB

[gobears]

KDawgCometh said:

I feel I should've just dumped it PF, but this guy pretty much ignored position and kickers, so I thought a PF three bet with this hand might show him I had something. I really think this hand is a good demonstration in frustration from a session I had where every good hand I got was cracked and any decent hand I had was either dominated or missed. Second best hands were winning against me too. anyway have at it, as I know I played it bad, but I really want info as It could very well help me in teh future during downswings(like now)Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with [A :heart: ], [J :spade: ]. UTG raises, Hero calls.Flop: (8.50 SB) [4 :spade: ], [2 :heart: ], [J :heart: ] (2 players)Hero bets, Hero calls.Turn: (6.25 BB) [3 :heart: ] (2 players)Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.River: (8.25 BB) [2 :diamond: ] (2 players)Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 10.25 BB

Based on your read, the raise looks ok. If he was playing tight then the fold would have been the proper play but it sounds like he'll play A rag or K 10/ K J/Q J from any position.

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gobears said:

Based on your read, the raise looks ok. If he was playing tight then the fold would have been the proper play but it sounds like he'll play A rag or K 10/ K J/Q J from any position.

Yea, a tight player capping the pot preflop is probably on JJ-AA. Especially when he raises into you after the flop. So a tight player I would also fold.Also, you most likely had 12 outs going into the river so that call was easy.

[wrto4556]

shorthanded I 3-bet AJ every time. Against really good players, I 3-bet that every time. But not here. 8 hands are delt, your kicker may or may not be good, you probably can't steal the pot...too much isn't going your way.Muck preflop. Postflop looks good.

[TINXDAD]

When I'm on a losing streak AJ looks like gold. But exactly when are you supposed to make your comeback. AJ is not a bad starting hand, although you are out of position so I would not have 3 bet. Once you saw the flop, it would be hard not to call 1 SB and with the outs by the turn a call is the right play. You can still get away when your river missed.

[Smasharoo]

I feel I should've just dumped it PFYou're right.AJ's not a great hand to three-bet to isolate with unless he's raising constantly.

[NorthPacific]

My question is, how was this guy betting? You said he ignored position and kickers but did he limp in with no kicker out of position or did he raise in? If he was constantly raising garbage then I could see 3 betting and staying aggressive on the flop. If he was limping most of the time then I think you have to consider folding pf but definately not 3 betting. After the flop the J doesn't slow him down. Now you have to ask yourself, has he tried to buy a pot previously with AK or AQ, or based on his previous play should you give him credit for a high pp and fold.

[Absolute]

I think you played this hand fine after the flop.And I agree with laying it down pre-flop. You can't get in a capped pot 8-handed with AJ because you won't be able to get away from it if an A comes, and you are likely a dog at the flop if the A does come.

[KDawgCometh]

XXEddie said:

I think I woulda folded he pre-flop or the turn, he constant raises/capping is a sign of JJ QQ KK or AA

I'm not questioning why I'd fold it PF, I even said I should've done this. But what reason is there with the pot size for me to fold the turn. I have two good jacks, maybe three aces(so we'll give it 1 out) and nine good hearts and at this point I'm getting a little over 8-1 on my call. So what's my reason for folding on the turn