CobaltBlue 662 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 This wasn't quite true when I first sat down, but within an hour or so of sitting at this table, the table stats were probably something along the lines of 65% of players per flop with average pots of $600. The fact that every third or fourth pot had a live straddle and that several people were playing with "overs" (escalating the bets to 40/80 when only "over" players were involved) certainly helped.Two orbits in...Hand 1Harrah's NO 20/40 LHE (7-handed)Cobalt is BB w/ Jh 5h. MP2 and CO are LAG donkeys. SB is a donkish calling station, but he'll bet out with most pairs from the blinds.Pre-flop:2 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, Cobalt checksFlop (4 SB): 4 5 3 (4 players)SB bets, Cobalt raises, MP2 3-bets, 1 fold, SB calls, Cobalt callsTurn (6.5 BB): Q (3 players)SB checks, Cobalt bets, MP2 calls, SB callsRiver (9.5 BB): 9 (3 players)SB checks, Cobalt bets, MP2 calls, 1 foldFinal Pot: 11.5 BBI think this is standard, but feel free to critique.Six orbits in...Hand 2Harrah's NO 20/40 LHE (9-handed)Cobalt is BB w/ Ad Kc. My table image is very tight. MP3 is very loose, slightly aggressive, and somewhat inebriated. CO just sat down and seems to be a drunken maniac. He claims that he's raising/capping in the dark, and I believe him for the most part. Button is SLAG. SB is a donkish calling station, but he'll bet out with most pairs from the blinds.Pre-flop:4 folds, MP3 calls, CO raises, Button calls, SB calls, Cobalt 3-bets, MP3 calls, CO caps, Button calls, SB calls, Cobalt calls, MP3 callsFlop (20 SB): K Q 9 (5 players)SB bets, Cobalt raises, 1 fold, CO 3-bets, 1 fold, SB calls, Cobalt caps, CO calls, SB callsTurn (16 BB): T (3 players)SB bets, Cobalt calls, CO raises, SB calls, Cobalt callsRiver (22 BB): K (3 players)SB bets, Cobalt calls, CO callsFinal Pot: 25 BBWhat do I need to do differently? There's little doubt in my mind that I'm ahead on this flop.Fifteen orbits in...Hand 3Harrah's NO 20/40 LHE (10-handed)Cobalt is BB w/ Ah 7h. After being card dead for hours, my table image is super tight...especially in comparison to the gaggle of maniacs at the table. UTG+2 is a semi-maniac. MP2 is very loose, slightly aggressive, and somewhat inebriated. Button is SLAP. SB is SLAG and tricky.Pre-flop:2 folds, UTG+2 raises, MP2 calls, Button calls, SB calls, Cobalt callsFlop (10 SB): A 8 6 (5 players)SB checks, Cobalt bets, UTG+2 raises, Button calls, SB calls, Cobalt callsTurn (9 BB): 7 (4 players)SB checks, Cobalt checks, UTG+2 bets, Button calls, SB calls, Cobalt raises, UTG+2 3-bets, Button calls, SB calls, Cobalt callsRiver (21 BB): 7 (4 players)SB checks, Cobalt checks, UTG+2 bets, 2 folds, Cobalt raises, UTG+2 callsFinal Pot: 25 BBI can guarantee that semi-maniac will bet 90% of the time when he's checked to, but he won't always raise. We cool with the the check/raise/call line on the river? Check-raising was actually pretty rare at the table. Limp-raising and call-raising happened periodically though. Link to post Share on other sites
jcdoerre 0 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Take my thoughts with a grain of salt, but in general I don't see anything that I would question.Hand 1 is very standard, nothing really to be said. I guess you could go for a check-raise on the turn, but I like betting out better, which you did.Hand 2 is just a pain in the ***. I can't see laying this down, you can't be 100% sure you're beat, and the pot is too big. Add in the chance that even if you're behind right now there are probably three jacks out there as clean outs and you have to call the turn. From there you have to show it down for one big bet, especially when you hit another king.Hand 3 I maybe check raise the flop since maniac will almost invariably bet out. I'm always scared with an ace and a weak kicker though, so who knows. Link to post Share on other sites
amarillotg 0 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 it all looks good to me. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Hand 1 I think you should cap the flop for value. Given that you never, you should go foro the c/r on the turn.I think you can find a fold on the turn in hand 2. Edit: Missed the gutshot. Nice hand.I usually donk/3-bet this turn. You probably have the best hand, but it is vulnerable and the pot is getting big. I think you should cap after you get 3-bet on the turn given UTG+2s description. He probalby has AK and you are getting a nice overlay from the other players. River looks good. Link to post Share on other sites
greatwhite 0 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Hand 1-I'm check-raising the turn and checking the river. I'm suprised no one has stated check the river yet. Honestly, if you bet who is going to call you. I'd rather let one of these idiots who probablly has jack high make a river bluff.Hand 2-Don't cap this flop and fold this turn. If you call you are more than likely drawing to half the pot on a gunshot and you don't know what the action will be behind you. Hand 3- I'm capping this turn. With the other 4 players in you only have to win 25% of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
amarillotg 0 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Hand 1-I'm check-raising the turn and checking the river. I'm suprised no one has stated check the river yet. Honestly, if you bet who is going to call you. I'd rather let one of these idiots who probablly has jack high make a river bluff.he's got a flush. checking the river would be horrible here. villain is laggy donkey, he's calling with any paired hand at this point. Link to post Share on other sites
greatwhite 0 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Ah, misread. Thought he had a flush draw. LOL! In that case go ahead and lead the river. Not only that, but I'm capping the flop for value. Link to post Share on other sites
amarillotg 0 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 in regards to hand 2, i don't think im folding here.even if i am beat on the turn at least i have a draw to the nut straight. if we don't improve by the river the pot is too big to fold now.im not sure i can find a fold. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Hand 1 I think you should cap the flop for value. Given that you never, you should go foro the c/r on the turn.I think you can find a fold on the turn in hand 2. Edit: Missed the gutshot. Nice hand.I usually donk/3-bet this turn. You probably have the best hand, but it is vulnerable and the pot is getting big. I think you should cap after you get 3-bet on the turn given UTG+2s description. He probalby has AK and you are getting a nice overlay from the other players. River looks good.good advice, guy.as said, i like a turn c/r in hand 1 when we have a LAG with the sb in between. Not 3-betting the flop sets us up later. Link to post Share on other sites
dimseven 0 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Hand 1 I think you should cap the flop for value. Given that you never, you should go foro the c/r on the turn.Havne't read the other hands yet. But for 1, this is good advice. You have more than 9 outs on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 Havne't read the other hands yet. But for 1, this is good advice. You have more than 9 outs on the flop.As it was early in the session, my reads weren't solid enough to think that I had more than 9 outs after the 3-bet. I'm totally with y'all on capping the flop if one more person came along, but I was a bit tentative with just the three of us. As for not check-raising the turn, I was worried that MP2 would freeze up when the flush hit. It sucks if this gets checked through on the turn. And finally, not to be results-oriented or anything...but I think MP2 had either a set or straight based on his reactions throughout the hand.In hand two, I really really wanted to fold the hand on both the turn and the river, but having the gut-shot and being against a maniac, I just couldn't do it. As for the results, SB had QT for two pair...as for his river bet...he was a little dense. Maniac had QJo. That hand stung a bit.In hand three, semi-maniac had T9o. To speak to his credit though, he really wanted to fold to my river check-raise. Always fun to re-suck out on someone. Link to post Share on other sites
KowboyKoop 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Haven't read everyone's advice.Hand 1: I cap flop. That's only thing I definitely do differently. MAYBE go for a check-raise on the turn if you think that MP2 may bet out......but leading out is good too. Nice hand.Hand 2: If you're confident in your reads on CO, which you seem to be, I play it exactly the same I think. Tough hand though....unsure about it. Hand 3: I'd probably lead out on turn...but I don't think check-raising is a bad play either. Nice hand. Link to post Share on other sites
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