7 replies to this topic

[DanielNegreanu]

Ok, you guys are on a roll! That early in a tournament, with stacks as deep as they are, folding is a little too careful and re-raising is a little too reckless. With a hand like QQ you really want to make your key decisions after the flop depending on the texture of the flop. Having said that, the second best option is to re-raise. I would recommend this play to beginning players only. Reason being, a beggining player will make more mistakes after the flop so they are better off playing more aggressively pre-flop. The next one is tough, really tough. I'm still debating the hand with several other top players...

[Absolute]

Would you reccomend pushing all-in to re-raising though?I agree that calling is the only correct move in this spot though.

[DanielNegreanu]

For a beginner, I would reccomend re-rasing to about 3500 actually. Then if your opponent goes all in I would reccomend folding the hand.

[Absolute]

Flat calling with queens then. Are you looking to hit a queen?With the pre-flop raise are you thinking you might already be beat, or are you leading out on this flop if it comes undercards?

[Emptyeye]

A beginner?! Boo. :x Though I guess that's why Daniel plays 4K/8K and I play 2cent/4cent online.

[KDawgCometh]

Absolute said:

Flat calling with queens then. Are you looking to hit a queen?With the pre-flop raise are you thinking you might already be beat, or are you leading out on this flop if it comes undercards?

I remember Thomas Kellar talking about how strong calling is in tournaments. It can really send a message. I think he wrote about calling in his delayed bluff articles

[akishore]

KDawgCometh said:

Absolute said:

Flat calling with queens then. Are you looking to hit a queen?With the pre-flop raise are you thinking you might already be beat, or are you leading out on this flop if it comes undercards?

I remember Thomas Kellar talking about how strong calling is in tournaments. It can really send a message. I think he wrote about calling in his delayed bluff articles

actually, in any NL game, calling is a VERY strong move. although it's very risky and gutsy since you give away free cards, calling is very powerful.it can be used to represent a strong hand, since your opponent will immediately fear a trap. for example, if the board is paired, e.g. Q-Q-4 rainbow, your opponent leads out, and you flat-call, that will instill total fear in your opponent unless he has the Q.and yes, it is also useful for a delayed bluff, as keller wrote about (i remember reading that article too), but it's also very risky since you're giving up a card.aseem

[zimmer4141]

The reason for calling is that you can see the flop for a cheaper price. If the flop comes with 3 undercards, you can bet out. If you are raised, you will probably assume he has AA or KK and you are beaten. If he folds, then he probably had AK and realized he was beaten.