screech 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Preflop raiser is 44/24/1.SB is 15/11/5.Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, K. UTG raises, 2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls, 1 fold.Flop: (7 SB) 9, T, K(3 players)SB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, UTG calls, Hero calls.Turn: (8 BB) 7(3 players)SB bets, UTG calls, Hero calls.River: (11 BB) 6(3 players)SB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, SB folds.Final Pot: 13 BBI don't like my pf play. I don't know about the rest. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Preflop raiser is 44/24/1.SB is 15/11/5.aya, that guy's a silly, silly man.i 3-bet pf and probably cap the flop against him to get some more info. if he comes at me on the turn anyway, i probably call down like you did. if he c/r-es the turn, then i call down, too. otherwise i'm betting both the turn and river in position, and calling a river raise. Link to post Share on other sites
aim786 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 I 3bet preflop, especially since UTG has a wide range (PFR of 24). The rest looks fine to me. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Author Share Posted May 16, 2006 aya, that guy's a silly, silly man.i 3-bet pf and probably cap the flop against him to get some more info. if he comes at me on the turn anyway, i probably call down like you did. if he c/r-es the turn, then i call down, too. otherwise i'm betting both the turn and river in position, and calling a river raise.What do you think UTG's range is when he calls the flop 3-bet?What do you think SB's range is? Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 I 3-bet preflopPost flop I play it the same way you did. We have the second best made hand and second best draw to often to get aggro with this on later streets. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 What do you think UTG's range is when he calls the flop 3-bet?uhm... something like: 77-99, A6s-AJs, A8-AQ, KQs, KQo, KJ-KQs... a normal-ish range. i actually don't use pokertracker very often, so i don't know how to interpret numbers very well. i like words better. What do you think SB's range is?tougher. that's why i like to 3-bet stuff like this, so i can get a better idea of what's up with the blinds. but he's LAG, so he'd probably call anyway. i'd guess that after the flop, the SB could have either a K that we're drawing to beat with either a J, Q, or spade, or the As, which we're ahead of. that's an argument to cap the flop either way, i think. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted May 17, 2006 Author Share Posted May 17, 2006 uhm... something like: 77-99, A6s-AJs, A8-AQ, KQs, KQo, KJ-KQs... a normal-ish range. i actually don't use pokertracker very often, so i don't know how to interpret numbers very well. i like words better. tougher. that's why i like to 3-bet stuff like this, so i can get a better idea of what's up with the blinds. but he's LAG, so he'd probably call anyway. i'd guess that after the flop, the SB could have either a K that we're drawing to beat with either a J, Q, or spade, or the As, which we're ahead of. that's an argument to cap the flop either way, i think.I think you're confusing the 2.SB is the tight player that cold called pf. I would think his range is limited to 99/TT, JTs+, KQo,KTs+, AJo+, and ATs+. With him probably 3-betting AK pf.So, when he 3-bets this flop, I think I can safely put him on:TT/99, KQo, KTs, QJs, and maybe AJo/AQo with the As. Also, he could have something like T9s/K9s every once in a while.So I'm not doing too well against this range.UTG's range is pretty similar:K9o+, AK, JJ (with spade), and a lot of Asx hands.It seems to me like I'm in the terrible spot of possibly having the 2nd best made hand and 2nd best draw. Link to post Share on other sites
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