BuffDan 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 So villain hadn't been at the table long, but I had already witnessed him going crazy capping the turn with queen high and no draw, so I am sure that affected my thinking, perhaps too much. I think I have problems with each street.Preflop, should I be raising? On the flop, should I have capped (I think going for the checkraise is ok)? On the turn, should I have b/c or maybe just c/c or b/f, I don't know? And on the river is b/f a better line? ARGGGGGGGG, so many freaking options and I have no idea what is right.Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Preflop: Hero is SB with T, T. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.Flop: (12 SB) 9, 9, 4(6 players)Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, CO folds, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 3-bets, Hero calls.Turn: (9 BB) 7(2 players)Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP2 3-bets, Hero calls.River: (15 BB) Q(2 players)Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 17 BB Link to post Share on other sites
aim786 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 You should be 3-betting this preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
cu in 4years Dan 1 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 You should be 3-betting this preflop.big yes yes Link to post Share on other sites
Verdimme 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 3-betting preflop is an option, but I like just calling too. At these limits people usually don't fold when its two back to them, so it looks like the pot is going to be at least 4-5 way. I'd rather see a flop first then, and exploit my equity later in the hand.On the flop, facing the field to call two cold, perfect. Given your read of villain I would certainly cap the flop. Against his range you are probably ahead more then 50% of the time.I would bet/ call the turn, and c/c the river. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Yeah..I WANT TO 3-bet preflop becuase I want KQ, QJs, A9, to all fold...but they won't.However, we have great VALUE with a raise, and may fold some over cards in BB hand. So I see both.when we don't 3-bet preflop...so, given our relative pos, we keep a little smalle pot, and look to c/r the flop,Flop was beautiful.And like Verdimme: bet/call Turn (charge draws/overs/he's a lag/maniac/donkey?)c/c river: no more draws to protect, he'll bet for us, we are beat by a donkey sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Yeah..I WANT TO 3-bet preflop becuase I want KQ, QJs, A9, to all fold...but they won't.However, we have great VALUE with a raise, and may fold some over cards in BB hand. So I see both.when we don't 3-bet preflop...so, given our relative pos, we keep a little smalle pot, and look to c/r the flop,Flop was beautiful.And like Verdimme: bet/call Turn (charge draws/overs/he's a lag/maniac/donkey?)c/c river: no more draws to protect, he'll bet for us, we are beat by a donkey sometimes.This guy knows his stuff.If we can get it heads up, I would 3-bet. Calling is certainly an option as well.Personally, I will 3-bet preflop almost every time though. I don't really care if it's capped 10 ways with this hand. I think we are still putting our money in with an edge (although I don't have PokerStove to verify this right now), and in reality, it's pretty easy to play this hand postflop. I don't mind putting in a bunch of bets preflop, or letting everyone call two cold with K7, A5, etc.So, my point is, I don't mind playing this heads up, or multiway, but we have to adjust our postflop play, depending on what happens after our 3-bet, and how many are in, and pot size, et al.- Zach Link to post Share on other sites
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