Ok, I'll just post the HH:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: Bet The Pot)
CO (t23640)
Hero (t13470)
SB (t15785)
BB (t16751)
UTG (t15867)
UTG+1 (t7367)
MP1 (t7525)
MP2 (t36507)
MP3 (t19438)
Preflop: Hero is Button with [Jd], [Jh].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t800, 4 folds, Hero calls t800, 2 folds.
Flop: (t1800) [2s], [7d], [7c] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets t1200, Hero raises to t3000, UTG+1 raises to t6542, Hero folds.
Final Pot: t11342
Ok, I left myself a tough decision and I actually misread his stack before I put in the raise. My plan was to fold if he pushed all in when I thought he actually had 6k more to back up his call of my raise.
I'm getting a good price, but this player had been quite tight. I've only seen him showdown KK. I dont think he's moving with too many worse hands.
I think I can still make moves with that chip stack, if I call and lose, I'm in a much worse situation with the blinds going up in 1 min.
You guys are going to call me an idiot for not calling when I get such a great price, but does my read count for enough to make the fold?
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Folding An Overpair
Started by Petoria, May 15 2006 12:44 PM
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Posted 15 May 2006 - 12:44 PM
The path
of the righteous man is beset on
all sides by the inequities of the
selfish and the tyranny of evil
men. Blessed is he who, in the
name of charity and good will,
shepherds the weak through the
valley of darkness, for he is truly
his brother's keeper and the finder
of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those
who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.
And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.
of the righteous man is beset on
all sides by the inequities of the
selfish and the tyranny of evil
men. Blessed is he who, in the
name of charity and good will,
shepherds the weak through the
valley of darkness, for he is truly
his brother's keeper and the finder
of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those
who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.
And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.
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Posted 15 May 2006 - 12:52 PM
QUOTE (Petoria @ Monday, May 15th, 2006, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, I'll just post the HH:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: Bet The Pot)
CO (t23640)
Hero (t13470)
SB (t15785)
BB (t16751)
UTG (t15867)
UTG+1 (t7367)
MP1 (t7525)
MP2 (t36507)
MP3 (t19438)
Preflop: Hero is Button with [Jd], [Jh].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t800, 4 folds, Hero calls t800, 2 folds.
Flop: (t1800) [2s], [7d], [7c] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets t1200, Hero raises to t3000, UTG+1 raises to t6542, Hero folds.
Final Pot: t11342
Ok, I left myself a tough decision and I actually misread his stack before I put in the raise. My plan was to fold if he pushed all in when I thought he actually had 6k more to back up his call of my raise.
I'm getting a good price, but this player had been quite tight. I've only seen him showdown KK. I dont think he's moving with too many worse hands.
I think I can still make moves with that chip stack, if I call and lose, I'm in a much worse situation with the blinds going up in 1 min.
You guys are going to call me an idiot for not calling when I get such a great price, but does my read count for enough to make the fold?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: Bet The Pot)
CO (t23640)
Hero (t13470)
SB (t15785)
BB (t16751)
UTG (t15867)
UTG+1 (t7367)
MP1 (t7525)
MP2 (t36507)
MP3 (t19438)
Preflop: Hero is Button with [Jd], [Jh].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t800, 4 folds, Hero calls t800, 2 folds.
Flop: (t1800) [2s], [7d], [7c] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets t1200, Hero raises to t3000, UTG+1 raises to t6542, Hero folds.
Final Pot: t11342
Ok, I left myself a tough decision and I actually misread his stack before I put in the raise. My plan was to fold if he pushed all in when I thought he actually had 6k more to back up his call of my raise.
I'm getting a good price, but this player had been quite tight. I've only seen him showdown KK. I dont think he's moving with too many worse hands.
I think I can still make moves with that chip stack, if I call and lose, I'm in a much worse situation with the blinds going up in 1 min.
You guys are going to call me an idiot for not calling when I get such a great price, but does my read count for enough to make the fold?
I don't see how you're getting a "great" price against AA, KK or QQ. You're getting 3:1 where you're a 10:1 dog. How likely do you think it is he has TT, 99 or 88?
Good fold.
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Posted 15 May 2006 - 12:56 PM
QUOTE (shpaget @ Monday, May 15th, 2006, 3:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't see how you're getting a "great" price against AA, KK or QQ. You're getting 3:1 where you're a 10:1 dog. How likely do you think it is he has TT, 99 or 88?
Good fold.
Good fold.
With this player, I think he moves with TT, thats it from that range. So it's still proly ok?
I'm used to people saying I play bad when I post a difficult hand.
The path
of the righteous man is beset on
all sides by the inequities of the
selfish and the tyranny of evil
men. Blessed is he who, in the
name of charity and good will,
shepherds the weak through the
valley of darkness, for he is truly
his brother's keeper and the finder
of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those
who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.
And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.
of the righteous man is beset on
all sides by the inequities of the
selfish and the tyranny of evil
men. Blessed is he who, in the
name of charity and good will,
shepherds the weak through the
valley of darkness, for he is truly
his brother's keeper and the finder
of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those
who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.
And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.
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Posted 15 May 2006 - 01:06 PM
You're getting 3.5-1+ and only behind AA/KK/QQ. He's not bluffing but he could have 10's/9's/8's or maybe he thinks that his AK is good.
Also, he's the short stack at the table and getting desperate so even if he's been a rock until now; he could be loosening up and I don't think that I could pass up those pot odds.
If he's that big of a rock, then a reraise preflop as an option would probably have given you the info as to whether he had one of the premium pairs if he pushed over your raise of say 2K. I would have called the bet however just like you did preflop.
Also, he's the short stack at the table and getting desperate so even if he's been a rock until now; he could be loosening up and I don't think that I could pass up those pot odds.
If he's that big of a rock, then a reraise preflop as an option would probably have given you the info as to whether he had one of the premium pairs if he pushed over your raise of say 2K. I would have called the bet however just like you did preflop.
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Posted 15 May 2006 - 07:11 PM
QUOTE (gobears @ Monday, May 15th, 2006, 4:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're getting 3.5-1+ and only behind AA/KK/QQ. He's not bluffing but he could have 10's/9's/8's or maybe he thinks that his AK is good.
Also, he's the short stack at the table and getting desperate so even if he's been a rock until now; he could be loosening up and I don't think that I could pass up those pot odds.
If he's that big of a rock, then a reraise preflop as an option would probably have given you the info as to whether he had one of the premium pairs if he pushed over your raise of say 2K. I would have called the bet however just like you did preflop.
Also, he's the short stack at the table and getting desperate so even if he's been a rock until now; he could be loosening up and I don't think that I could pass up those pot odds.
If he's that big of a rock, then a reraise preflop as an option would probably have given you the info as to whether he had one of the premium pairs if he pushed over your raise of say 2K. I would have called the bet however just like you did preflop.
I actually considered a reraise preflop after the fact, I proly couldve saved some money. I dont really see a downside to it, except that I'd really want to call an all in. That is probably a leak I need to work on I guess
The path
of the righteous man is beset on
all sides by the inequities of the
selfish and the tyranny of evil
men. Blessed is he who, in the
name of charity and good will,
shepherds the weak through the
valley of darkness, for he is truly
his brother's keeper and the finder
of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those
who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.
And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.
of the righteous man is beset on
all sides by the inequities of the
selfish and the tyranny of evil
men. Blessed is he who, in the
name of charity and good will,
shepherds the weak through the
valley of darkness, for he is truly
his brother's keeper and the finder
of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those
who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.
And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.
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