Giving Up Oop

[aim786 0]

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, A. 3 folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, Button calls.Flop: (7 SB) J, J, 6(2 players)Hero bets, Button calls.Turn: (4.50 BB) 3(2 players)Hero checks, Button bets, Hero folds.Final Pot: 5.50 BBThis is the way I usually play overcards OOP HU. A similar situation would be if I raise EP, get called in LP, bet the flop and c/f the turn when I have not made a hand/draw. I do mix up my play however:- I check my weaker and stronger hands on the turn, going for a c/r in the latter case- I c/c with hands that have showdown value, but can't stand a raise: ie middle pair good kicker or a PP- I bet out with some of my stronger hands that are vulnerable to giving free cardsIn spite of this, should I be betting in spots like in the hand above? Should I be betting out against a specific kind of player?

[Verdimme 0]

Against the typical player I would bet/ fold the turn. There is a draw present, so charge them. Your hand could easily be best.

[pokerplayer24 0]

Against the typical player I would bet/ fold the turn. There is a draw present, so charge them. Your hand could easily be best.

YepHe's peeling with a ton of stuff on the flop that you have beat.I probly bet/fold the turn. If just called I check/call the river.

[screech 0]

yuk.bet/fold turn against most. against really aggressive idiots, check/calling twice is fine too.

[paulie72 0]

Yup, Buttons opening range is probably very liberal and you have the best hand at this flop a lot.I would bet/fold the Turn, and check call the river

[aim786 0]

What happens if I have something like KQs here, ie no ace. Am I still b/f and then c/c the river?

[screech 0]

What happens if I have something like KQs here, ie no ace. Am I still b/f and then c/c the river?

without the ace your hand loses a tremendous amount of sd value so you have to bet the turn.

[CobaltBlue 662]

aim, if we were in a full-ring or NL situation, it's a lot easier to try justifying giving up in this spot. Short-handed limit though...you've got to bet/fold this turn.

[aim786 0]

without the ace your hand loses a tremendous amount of sd value so you have to bet the turn.

And then I give up on the river if he calls the turn again?

[CobaltBlue 662]

And then I give up on the river if he calls the turn again?

Depends on if you think you can fold an ace...cause a pair is likely calling.

[AlphaOmega 0]

And then I give up on the river if he calls the turn again?

It depends, but I wouldn't usually.Like others have said, you HAVE to b/f this turn. You currently have the best logical overcard hand, and overcards and flush draws are a high percentage of this opponent's hand range.You should probably check the river against most opponents, and call most of the time as well. In a small amount of situations you might be able to consider check/folding based on your read of your opponent. Would he bluff if checked to? If you don't know the answer with 100% certainty, I would call. I would value bet if my opponent was very LP.

[CoranMoran 0]

A paired flop is very good when you hold a big Ace.Your hand is very likely best.The fact that villain could easily have been trying to steal from the button increases the chances that you are still ahead.The turn did not help your opponent.So if you were probably ahead on the flop, then you are probably ahead now.Don't get shy.Bet again.And no reason to slow down unless he fights back.--cm