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ok here is the hand i busted with in the stars mill... i really thought that the sb might of been pretty strong here because we were close to the money and he seemed to have been stalling but it would of only been 800 more to call him so that was a must call. the bb was a nut. just moving chips in all over the place. didnt really think about his plays. so i didnt think he had aa or kk. i figured him for 99-jj. so do you make this call or should i have folded.PokerStars Game #4935769929: Tournament #23909982, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2006/05/14 - 19:19:21 (ET)Table '23909982 186' 9-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: crocd99 (12260 in chips) Seat 2: MCCCB (4910 in chips) Seat 3: Dubai (24857 in chips) Seat 4: Jacken Lee (10615 in chips) Seat 5: rosyblue7 (37247 in chips) Seat 6: LennyL (9823 in chips) Seat 7: call i bluff (23190 in chips) Seat 8: jaycyn6103 (20690 in chips) Seat 9: ricky4805 (14780 in chips) crocd99: posts the ante 40MCCCB: posts the ante 40Dubai: posts the ante 40Jacken Lee: posts the ante 40rosyblue7: posts the ante 40LennyL: posts the ante 40call i bluff: posts the ante 40jaycyn6103: posts the ante 40ricky4805: posts the ante 40MCCCB: posts small blind 400Dubai: posts big blind 800*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to crocd99 [As Kh]Jacken Lee: folds rosyblue7: calls 800LennyL: calls 800call i bluff: folds jaycyn6103: folds ricky4805: folds crocd99: raises 3200 to 4000MCCCB: raises 870 to 4870 and is all-inDubai: raises 19947 to 24817 and is all-inrosyblue7: folds LennyL: folds crocd99: calls 8220 and is all-in*** FLOP *** [2s 2h Qd]*** TURN *** [2s 2h Qd] [9h]*** RIVER *** [2s 2h Qd 9h] [4d]*** SHOW DOWN ***Dubai: shows [Js Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Deuces)crocd99: shows [As Kh] (a pair of Deuces)Dubai collected 14700 from side potMCCCB: shows [Th Tc] (two pair, Tens and Deuces)Dubai collected 16570 from main potlabelleza is connected *** SUMMARY ***Total pot 31270 Main pot 16570. Side pot 14700. | Rake 0 Board [2s 2h Qd 9h 4d]Seat 1: crocd99 (button) showed [As Kh] and lost with a pair of DeucesSeat 2: MCCCB (small blind) showed [Th Tc] and lost with two pair, Tens and DeucesSeat 3: Dubai (big blind) showed [Js Jc] and won (31270) with two pair, Jacks and DeucesSeat 4: Jacken Lee folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: rosyblue7 folded before FlopSeat 6: LennyL folded before FlopSeat 7: call i bluff folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: jaycyn6103 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: ricky4805 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Given your reads and given that I/we are playing to win, I do the same given your reads. If you had a read on 'Dubai' as a really solid/good player, I'd likely lay down, but not against an apparent LAG/maniac or whatever....so, nice play..bad result.

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I would have raised more pre-flop, as you already had 2 limpers in the pot. As it were, you were giving many of the people involved in this pot great odds to call. This will also help you in your later decisions if someone comes over the top of you (or puts you to an all-in decision), as you will have better odds to call/push (at least I think it does...)It didn't matter in this hand, as I can't realistically see you folding there to the push(es).

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