crankin 0 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)MP1 ($52.94)MP2 ($22.50)MP3 ($94.19)CO ($39)Button ($57.41)SB ($23.95)BB ($20)UTG ($54.30)Hero ($55.70)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K , K . SB posts a blind of $0.25. 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.5, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $4.5, 5 folds, Hero raises to $10, MP2 calls $5.50.Flop: ($20.75) Q , 2 , 7 (2 players)Hero ???My feel for MP2's range was JJ-KK (gotta assume that AA would shove pre-flop) and maybe AK.Aside from our flop action, would it be better (given MP2 has a short stack) to just push pre-flop instead of re-re-raise? Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Push this preflop. He's way too short to get away from a hand like QQ, JJ or even maybe ak. Link to post Share on other sites
crankin 0 Posted May 12, 2006 Author Share Posted May 12, 2006 Push this preflop. He's way too short to get away from a hand like QQ, JJ or even maybe ak.That's my feeling as well. I think at the time I simply forgot to look at his stack size.Any thoughts on what we do on the flop, given that we didn't push pre-flop? Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 That's my feeling as well. I think at the time I simply forgot to look at his stack size.Any thoughts on what we do on the flop, given that we didn't push pre-flop?Probably just push. The flop killed you tho Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Probably just push. The flop killed you thoWhy did the flop kill him? Do we put this guy on AA or QQ?I'm pushing this every time.He can't fold, no matter what he has, as most ofhis money's already in the pot.This is almost a dream flop for KK.Hopefully he has AQ. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Why did the flop kill him? Do we put this guy on AA or QQ?I'm pushing this every time.He can't fold, no matter what he has, as most ofhis money's already in the pot.This is almost a dream flop for KK.Hopefully he has AQ.I meant more in terms of either 1)putting him behind in the hand to one of the hands he was beating (QQ) 2) may have killed the action from other hands tha twould have called a preflop push, JJ 1010. (maybe he'll lay down ak on this board)Relatively: we are now getting calls from better hands more often than preflop and more folds from worse hands than we were preflop.Edit: also, some one who sits at these games w/ $20 can get away from this on the flop since it would be for "half his stack" Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Push this preflop. He's way too short to get away from a hand like QQ, JJ or even maybe ak.QFE.Push-pre flop.I had this scenario come up last night in the $50 6-max while holding QQ.I'm in the BB with $120. Folds to button who limps. Button and SB have like $15. I've decided that I'm going to jam to any raise. Sure enough, SB raises to $3, I very quickly jam. Button folds, SB tanks... and calls with 44. Since hypothetically results don't matter, I hypothetically could have lost to a set on the flop... but hypothetically it only cost me $15. Link to post Share on other sites
DrZebrа 0 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)MP1 ($52.94)MP2 ($22.50)MP3 ($94.19)CO ($39)Button ($57.41)SB ($23.95)BB ($20)UTG ($54.30)Hero ($55.70)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K , K . SB posts a blind of $0.25. 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.5, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $4.5, 5 folds, Hero raises to $10, MP2 calls $5.50.Flop: ($20.75) Q , 2 , 7 (2 players)Hero ???My feel for MP2's range was JJ-KK (gotta assume that AA would shove pre-flop) and maybe AK.Aside from our flop action, would it be better (given MP2 has a short stack) to just push pre-flop instead of re-re-raise?such an easy fold. all you have is one pair... he obviously has QQ. Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)MP1 ($52.94)MP2 ($22.50)MP3 ($94.19)CO ($39)Button ($57.41)SB ($23.95)BB ($20)UTG ($54.30)Hero ($55.70)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K , K . SB posts a blind of $0.25. 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.5, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $4.5, 5 folds, Hero raises to $10, MP2 calls $5.50.Flop: ($20.75) Q , 2 , 7 (2 players)Hero ???My feel for MP2's range was JJ-KK (gotta assume that AA would shove pre-flop) and maybe AK.Aside from our flop action, would it be better (given MP2 has a short stack) to just push pre-flop instead of re-re-raise?Push, i don't like the min reraise preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
The Nuts 0 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Push this preflop. He's way too short to get away from a hand like QQ, JJ or even maybe ak.QFT Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 QFTi'm not familiar w/ the general abbreviations. Link to post Share on other sites
diamondhead 0 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)MP1 ($52.94)MP2 ($22.50)MP3 ($94.19)CO ($39)Button ($57.41)SB ($23.95)BB ($20)UTG ($54.30)Hero ($55.70)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K , K . SB posts a blind of $0.25. 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.5, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $4.5, 5 folds, Hero raises to $10, MP2 calls $5.50.Flop: ($20.75) Q , 2 , 7 (2 players)Hero ???My feel for MP2's range was JJ-KK (gotta assume that AA would shove pre-flop) and maybe AK.Aside from our flop action, would it be better (given MP2 has a short stack) to just push pre-flop instead of re-re-raise?I think your ahead here. You could push preflop but the fact that he didn't push allin preflop could probably rule out AA for him. Just push on this flop and hope he didn't get lucky with QQ or doesn't suck out on you. But i think pushing preflop is a good play. Link to post Share on other sites
The Nuts 0 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 i'm not familiar w/ the general abbreviations.Quoted For Truth.On the topic of acronyms, what does FYP stand for on this forum? Link to post Share on other sites
crankin 0 Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 Quoted For Truth.On the topic of acronyms, what does FYP stand for on this forum?FYP == Fixed Your Post Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Push, i don't like the min reraise preflop.hmmmmraises from 1.5 to 4.5 is 3raising from 4.5 to 10 is 5.5since when does 5.5 = 3oh thats right, it doesnta real min-raise would been to 7.5stop sleeping in math classor KYwhatever.Quoted For Truth.On the topic of acronyms, what does FYP stand for on this forum?I always assumed it stood for quit fuc.king talking Link to post Share on other sites
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