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[KDawgCometh]

Really I feel that I misplayed this one PF by not threebetting, but have at it y'allsParty Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP1 with [9 :club: ], [9 :spade: ]. 3 folds, Hero calls.Flop: (9 SB) [8 :heart: ], [4 :diamond: ], [Q :heart: ] (4 players)SB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, Button calls, SB calls.Turn: (6.50 BB) [8 :spade: ] (4 players)SB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, Button calls, SB folds.River: (9.50 BB) [T :club: ] (3 players)Hero bets, MP2 calls, Button calls.Final Pot: 12.50 BB

[wrto4556]

I don't really like your bet on the flop. There is too many people in the hand that are likely to have a Q.Also, the river bet doesn't see like a solid bet for value. I check there.Give me a good responce.

[Absolute]

PreflopThere is nothing wrong with just calling from a semi-early position raiser here. If you three-bet, you probably get capped, and you can't get in a habit of getting in capped pots with 9-9. FlopYour fold equity isn't too good in EP here with five to the flop and a Q on the board. It's not horrible though either. I would be wary though of too many hands to bet here. (Q-10, Q-J, Q-K, or Q-Q or A-Q from the raiser). I would bet here in later position for sure, but the early position bet is tougher. Still not horrible. I just don't like it much.TurnSince middle pair tripped here, I would check. Anyone who bets this board here probably has you beat. Not a good value bet IMO.RiverNow this is definitely a bad value bet. I don't see how you are winning in this pot anymore. The likelihood of a bad queen folding here is slim, and any 8 or 10 beats you, although I would rule the 8 out with the weak play on the turn. Anyone holding a hand like 9-10 or 10-J here chasing gutshots (which happens all the time at these limits) just paired.I check the river.

[TINXDAD]

I think that 3betting this pre flop would have prompted you to play the hand the same way. You led out representing Top Pair and the 3bet would have them putting you on AQ or so. Either way you didnt give MP2 the chance to bet at the flop. Your extra bet would be better served check raising MP2 if he bet the flop. If MP2 or Button had a queen they are likely to call down the turn and river. 8 was a scare card for you, You would be justified to check the turn now allowing your opponents to try to steal but gaining valuable info. What was the showdown?

[Smasharoo]

Hard to see what you could be beating here on the river when you bet out.For your river bet to have value you need to be looking at AK and 55 or something crazy. Not real likely.Three-betting pre-flop doesn't accomplish anything for you except making the pot so big that it's almost guranteed the hand gets shown down. If you were acting immediately after the raiser it'd be a relatively east three-bet to isolate unless you're on a table with a lot people who will cal three cold with hands worse than 99.You're allready in a bad spot with a medium pair against just the wrong number of opponenets, three-betting just compounds that and detrats a lot of value from the times you flop a set because you'd have paid 3.5 more BB the times you didn't.

[KDawgCometh]

yousuckedoutonme said:

you shouldn't 3 bet this hand. you're out of position against 2 opponents in this hand. that's the most important. besides that, if you 3-bet and the raiser just calls, then the rest of the pack will call and it will still be 3 + you to the flop. you don't want to play 9-9 for 3 or 4 bets out of position to 2 players.the flop bet is ok.i'd check the turn, but i can see why you would bet to protect against A-X drawing. i have no idea why you are betting the river. that's just bad.let me guess: one of them had a weak Q or A-10 or JJ?

your last one, god call. Basically I figured that AQ,KQ, or even QJ would raise me on the flop. Maybe I just got a little fancy with against the wrong opponents

[Vade]

Personally, calling a preflop raise is fine.Betting at that flop is okay, but you must then check it down from that point.If someone raises your flop bet, you've gotta fold.Flop bet is trying to see a free card.