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[CobaltBlue]

Bodog 10/20 LHE (10-handed)

Cobalt is MP2 w/ A K . BB is a bit donkish, and Button is a LAG-donk, but no specific reads other than that. Table is relatively loose and donkish.

Pre-flop:
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Cobalt raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls

Flop (10.5 SB): J T 5 (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Cobalt calls, Button raises, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Cobalt calls

Turn (10 BB): K (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 bets, 1 fold, Cobalt folds...

[DonkSlayer]

I hate calling 2 bets with a gutshot draw and flush draw showing on the board.

[KowboyKoop]

Yeah...maybe I'm wrong, but I might fold flop...we have three good outs with the Qs, Qh, Qc, but even if we hit those we are vulnerable to flush/boat outs...and I'm not sure I see an Ace or a King being good...as there can be any combo of AJ, AT, KJ, KT out there.......I don't know then...MAYBE peeling a card is okay since you are getting pretty good odds...I'd say this is a fairly marginal situation where I think a fold would be better......

[CobaltBlue]

We've got somewhere between 3 and 9 outs. If we discount properly, I think we're looking at ~5...which I think is certainly enough to peel getting 13.5 to 1 with only one left to act behind us. But yes, it sucks quite a bit when Button raises.

[screech]

Nice hand.

[KowboyKoop]

We've got somewhere between 3 and 9 outs. If we discount properly, I think we're looking at ~5...which I think is certainly enough to peel getting 13.5 to 1 with only one left to act behind us. But yes, it sucks quite a bit when Button raises.

Yeah, I'd honestly probably peel a card...but I just wouldn't feel good with anything but a non-diamond Q and even then we're still probably dodging a lot of outs......just too many callers for me to think that one pair would take this down...so to me it seems just like a spot where we are hoping to hit a gutshot AND avoid the flush on the river (maybe boat too...maybe)....so I'd likely peel but don't know if I'd feel real good about my play..lol.

[Shimmering Wang]

We've got somewhere between 3 and 9 outs. If we discount properly, I think we're looking at ~5...which I think is certainly enough to peel getting 13.5 to 1 with only one left to act behind us. But yes, it sucks quite a bit when Button raises.

Firstly, I think giving yourself 5 clean outs here is a big much with this many players in the pot. But let's say five, for argument's sake.

Even if we do have 5 outs, our reverse implied odds are pretty terrible here. I think we dump off more bets than we want to pretty often when we spike a non-diamond Ace or King and still end up bad, or get drawn out on by the river. TJ is a real possibility, as is any number of weirdo straight draws from the BB (Q9s, AQ) or QK from the button, not to mention KJ, AJ, ATs or any other random opaque hand from some other player.

When we throw in the chance of a flopped set and a big diamond draw, calling this flop is tough, and often not worth it unless you have some specific reason for playing. If you had a single diamond, it would be a great spot to raise because the pot is so big, but we don't, so I think it is a fold.

In your case, since you play well, your peel isn't terrible. You might be in real trouble if UTG+2 hadn't led the turn. But he did, and you're good enough to fold here, so it's not horrendous.

Wang

[cu in 4years Dan]

Bodog 10/20 LHE (10-handed)

Cobalt is MP2 w/ A K . BB is a bit donkish, and Button is a LAG-donk, but no specific reads other than that. Table is relatively loose and donkish.

Pre-flop:
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Cobalt raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls

Flop (10.5 SB): J T 5 (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Cobalt calls, Button raises, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Cobalt calls

Turn (10 BB): K (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 bets, 1 fold, Cobalt folds...

i like this play.
with that much action espetially the calling, im thinking a draw. with the K of they hit some part of it. nice laydown sir