Online Note Taking.

[xxxmen 0]

I'm thinking of taking Notes of my opponents on online play. Does anyonehave a set of shorthand notes.Example:B-BlindSB-Small BlindDoes anyone have a printable or premade list which I can print out or copy?I would also like to know how many of you take notes when playing? Is this a critical part of online poker. Does note taking work if you use Java version or do you lose all info when you quit the software. Does it retain info?Thanks.

[cu in 4years Dan 1]

i cant ahh.. im not sure...... i cant quite...... wwwhhhattt?if you mean notes on players, then most poker rooms offer that (just right click)then you start going on about sb and bb then notes again, then ask if we have a copy of them?????TP/MMi got there first!

[Mercury69 3]

Clearly, you are thinking about this too much. Hire a secretary and make it easier on yourself.

[xxxmen 0]

What I meant is do any of you guys and gals have a way of taking notes.For example do you actually type "Bets pot size" or use a short form likeBPS. I just want to get an idea of how others take notes when playing online.How would you state: He over bets the pot. Sometime you don't have the time to type all that out, so I wanted to know if there is a short form list of poker terminology.

[mused01 0]

my notes on players consist of different color coordinated numbers that pop up beside each player's name (just use pokeraceHUD)

[cu in 4years Dan 1]

i write with a keyboard.why does the world always want shortcuts?

[suicideking 0]

i write with a keyboard.why does the world always want shortcuts?

Because the world realizes that some sites have limited space to take notes.

[Balloon guy 158]

I tag people either red...goodgreen...freindly but not 'goodor yellow...donkThere are not many times I will write anything out about them.When I have written something about someone, I write about their betting patterns.

[cu in 4years Dan 1]

Because the world realizes that some sites have limited space to take notes.

true. i never have a problem with it though

[checkymcfold 0]

for limit cash games, i keep track of the following:blind defense ratiopf raising range from ep, mp, and lpstealing range from lp if openwhether a player knows to raise draws for free cards on drawsturn raise ranges (2p or better, or does s/he do it with semibluffs or top pair?) whether missed draws will bet or raise the river

[dscoot 0]

for limit cash games, i keep track of the following:blind defense ratiopf raising range from ep, mp, and lpstealing range from lp if openwhether a player knows to raise draws for free cards on drawsturn raise ranges (2p or better, or does s/he do it with semibluffs or top pair?) whether missed draws will bet or raise the river

nice work dude

[CobaltBlue 662]

Some good acronyms for notes...OL = open-limpOR = open-raiseCR = check-raiseCC = cold callB/F = bet/foldCO = cut-offPF = pre-flopTP = top pairMP = middle position or middle pairBP = bottom pairTK = top kickerGK = good kickerCK = crap kickerFD = flush drawOESD = open-ended straight drawGS = gut-shotI usually include a general description of the player (calling station, passive, LAG, donk, super donk, solidish). Then I start listing hands that stand out (hole cards, position, and actions).So basically, you'll have something like...CC 99 MP (cold calls 99 in middle position)CR TPGK BB vs PFR (check-raises top-pair good-kicker in the BB against pre-flop raiser)passive FD (passive with a flush draw)

[xxxmen 0]

Thanks.Not that is what I was looking for. thank You for giving that information!This will definitely benefit my game!

[Shizzmoney 0]

O/L: BPP = open limper with big pocket pairs (Sometimes I'll even be more specific if I play with them enough, like O/L: AA or O/L: AA-99, etc)BD = blind defenderSBA = Super Blind aggressorCS = calling station (the bad type that funds our bankrolls and makes us cringe when they hit their 2 outer)COP = Sheriff, otherwise known as a good calling station; one who is more adept to reading the board and making a good call with marginal hands (these are the guys who call all-ins with AK on a 269 board in raising pot - sometimes you can pick them off, but you still don't wanna bluff these guys alot either)CH = chaser (Also you can be more specific with this, too like FCH - Flush chaser, STR8CH - Straight Chaser, and for limit games, OVCH - Overcard Chasers and ACH for Ace Chasers, etc).SAND = Sandbagger (If this guy calls a pot sized bet out of position on a K39 rainbow board and you have AK, watch out! He'll might have a set becaus he only raises with his vulnerable hands and call with his monsters)Ax = A player who loves any AceOVN/OVB = overbettor with the nuts/Overbettor blufferRB = River blufferDB = Draw blufferINTPO= Internet post oak bluffer (important info for Blind vs Blind play in SNG because you can either C/R bluff or bluff with any two cards when he does throw in that minimum bet on the flop)MIN = min bettor with the nuts (I have a buddy who also refers to this as GAY, for what he calls Gaybets lol)MIS/KP = Move In Specialist (The KP is for Kill Phil, the all-in strategy)WILD = Maniac (with notes on what hands they like to raise with, any A-x, small PP, any two suited cards Q8 and up, etc)I'll also note if I recognize any forum names from here, Neverwinpoker, etc. It's good info because the players on the forums are (most of the time) the ones who play alot and are good players (and I'll avoid those tabels and find another with some more likely fish).For limit games, you can also start labling the regulars with a chart like so:Aggressiveness: how often the player takes the betting lead. Looseness: correlates to percentage of hands played. Short-handed or Full Ring: how often this players plays in one or another, and how well he does in both

[fleung22 1]

OP, I think you're looking for too much in note taking.If you're a good note taker you're going to be doing it during little online breaks and be doing it often.There just isn't time to write everything about a player and it doesn't really matter.Three major things to know are % of hands played (P-Tracker calls this V$P), Pre-flop raising and Post-flop aggression.These numbers should be enough info for you to get by. Better to have minimal critical info on lots of players vs. complete player profiles on a few.EDIT: Oh, and record the number of hands played so you can determine a standard deviation for your info. Obviously you'll know a player much better after 1000 hands vs. 50 hands.

[No_Neck 0]

OP, I think you're looking for too much in note taking.If you're a good note taker you're going to be doing it during little online breaks and be doing it often.There just isn't time to write everything about a player and it doesn't really matter.Three major things to know are % of hands played (P-Tracker calls this V$P), Pre-flop raising and Post-flop aggression.These numbers should be enough info for you to get by. Better to have minimal critical info on lots of players vs. complete player profiles on a few.EDIT: Oh, and record the number of hands played so you can determine a standard deviation for your info. Obviously you'll know a player much better after 1000 hands vs. 50 hands.

you should really listen to colbalt he has gone from a recreational player to a great player faster than anyone I know. Taking notes is CRITICAL in poker

[fleung22 1]

you should really listen to colbalt he has gone from a recreational player to a great player faster than anyone I know. Taking notes is CRITICAL in poker

I actually do put more that the items I listed but those things are absolutes for me.It's easier for a beginning player who hasn't really done the note taking thing before....and you don't know me

[hotbacon 0]

I use a lot b/c I usually 8 table.BB - blind battleI use this a lot b/c in 6max I'll often note someone as "aggro BB" for "agressive in blind battles"I use "light" a lot too.like "caps light pf," "peels flop light," etc.plus more.

[SapphireTiger 0]

poker tracker.

[No_Neck 0]

I actually do put more that the items I listed but those things are absolutes for me.It's easier for a beginning player who hasn't really done the note taking thing before....and you don't know me

I don't need you, I don't need anyone

[GWCGWC 83]

Most players will play a little differently from day to day.

I tag people either red...goodgreen...freindly but not 'goodor yellow...donkThere are not many times I will write anything out about them.When I have written something about someone, I write about their betting patterns.

I sure hope I'm tagged as yellow.

[CobaltBlue 662]

you should really listen to cobalt he has gone from a recreational player to a great player faster than anyone I know.

I appreciate that, No Neck. I wouldn't consider myself great by any means though. Still got a long way to go.

I use "light" a lot too.like "caps light pf," "peels flop light," etc.

I'm fond of that word also. I find a lot of people that 3-bet light at 6-max these days.Also, some more useful little acronyms are 'HU' (to denote when the pot has gotten heads-up) and 'BvB' to denote 'blind vs blind' situations...which can be pretty different from any other situation.

[gooch 0]

my note taking mostly involve people sucking out flushes and how much money they owe me

[anselm 0]

You donks relying solely on PT/PO are out of your minds. Taking notes is so clearly +EV. The one acronym I didn't see mentioned yet was LRR -- limp-re-raisedOthers hit up the rest so thanks to Cobalt & Co. for their lists.

[Suited_Up 2]

I usually just use.... "Huge Fucking Donkey", or "Dumb suckout Bitch"