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[gobears]

pwrfade had pocket rockets - taken down by 5 2 o.PokerStars Game #1317253897: Tournament #5885619, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2005/03/07 - 00:44:56 (ET)Table '5885619 1' Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: gobears (930 in chips) Seat 2: Joker9888 (1545 in chips) Seat 3: hankhankhank (2347 in chips) Seat 4: Tarpon2 (3105 in chips) Seat 5: kiss fan (1170 in chips) Seat 6: scotty_k (1508 in chips) Seat 7: pwrfade (1750 in chips) Seat 9: hp612 (1145 in chips) kiss fan: posts small blind 75scotty_k: posts big blind 150*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to gobears [3s 4s]pwrfade: calls 150hp612 is connected hp612: folds gobears: folds Joker9888: calls 150hankhankhank: calls 150Tarpon2: folds kiss fan: folds scotty_k: checks *** FLOP *** [2h Qc 5h]scotty_k: checks pwrfade: checks Joker9888: bets 200hankhankhank: raises 400 to 600scotty_k: raises 758 to 1358 and is all-inpwrfade: raises 242 to 1600 and is all-inJoker9888: folds hankhankhank: folds *** TURN *** [2h Qc 5h] [8d]*** RIVER *** [2h Qc 5h 8d] [Tc]*** SHOW DOWN ***scotty_k: shows [5s 2d] (two pair, Fives and Deuces)pwrfade: shows [Ac As] (a pair of Aces)scotty_k collected 4191 from pot

[Emptyeye]

My friend enjoys playing 5-2o (Specifically going all-in with it). He especially enjoys when he raises with it (As I said, to him, 5-2o is normally "all-in!" so this constitutes mixing up his play), gets called by pocket aces, and has the flop come down A-3-4.Suffice to say the aces weren't happy with him. But I'll never forget the guy who flopped trip aces (He had something like A-4), decided to be sneaky and check the flop AND turn in last position, and allowed me to hit my runner-runner straight on the river. Not quite rockets, but nonetheless an illustration of "slowplay bad!"

[MasterLJ]

In general I think slow playing top pair or even two pair is asking for trouble.It comes from the fact that generally the action you get is a draw. Hopefully people are drawing for better than 2 pair =P. Probably a straight or flush. If they make your hand, whether you have two pair or one pair is irrelevant, you lose. I'd rather take down a pot for less money than slow play top pair top kicker for about a 50/50 shot at ending up the winner after the river. Top pair can NEVER be the nuts, and in reality is generally not a strong hand in a multiway pot.

[jayistheman]

i see slowplaying and limping as two different ideas.... AA must be raised pre flop..after a healthy raise pre flop though, i might have checked that flop... for deception purposes. if the board pairs, or a draw comes though, you must be ready to release them

[21gambit]

Youve got to limp with aces every now and then, other wise your game becomes too transparent. Granted a raise from you wont always mean you have aces, but when you dont raise, people will know you dont have aces, and allowing them the ability to eliminate possible hands that you hold is BAAADDDD. If you raise in everytime you come in, its fine, but otherwise, bad play, any sort of hard and fast rule that you follow is bad, because once you establish something like that for youself, you give your opponents an edge that they can depend on. You must remain unpredictable and do things differently.