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[TS Clark]

I've recently started teaching myself to play NLHE cash games. I guess I resisted the siren call as long as I could, but finally accepted the fact that a good NLHE player's edge is so much larger than almost any other game.

I had read people's complaints in the past that they avoided sites that had a BET POT button. I never understood why until the last few weeks. I can't begin to describe to you how much worse the players are at Party compared to a plance like UB and my initial opinion is that a ton of this difference is due simply to the BET POT button. The tards use it all the time on UB, thus making themselves way better players than they really are, while at Party, no such animal exists and people actually have to make intelligent decisions about bet sizes. (And, for the most part, they don't, of course.)

Has anyone else has this experience or otherwise like/hate the BET POT button as I have? I'm sure the topic's been covered before, but it's been very interesting and illuminating for me these last couple of weeks. I don't get rakeback at Party, obviously, but I might play all my NLHE there just because of the absence of this Fishy's Little Helper button.

[David_Nicoson]

I've recently started teaching myself to play NLHE cash games. I guess I resisted the siren call as long as I could, but finally accepted the fact that a good NLHE player's edge is so much larger than almost any other game.

I had read people's complaints in the past that they avoided sites that had a BET POT button. I never understood why until the last few weeks. I can't begin to describe to you how much worse the players are at Party compared to a plance like UB and my initial opinion is that a ton of this difference is due simply to the BET POT button. The tards use it all the time on UB, thus making themselves way better players than they really are, while at Party, no such animal exists and people actually have to make intelligent decisions about bet sizes. (And, for the most part, they don't, of course.)

Has anyone else has this experience or otherwise like/hate the BET POT button as I have? I'm sure the topic's been covered before, but it's been very interesting and illuminating for me these last couple of weeks. I don't get rakeback at Party, obviously, but I might play all my NLHE there just because of the absence of this Fishy's Little Helper button.

A bet pot button is certainly a nice clue. It's hard to tell its true effects, though, since there are other factors at work. Party advertises on Celebrity Poker Showdown, for instance.

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[PimpRock]

A bet pot button is certainly a nice clue. It's hard to tell it's true effects, though, since there are other factors at work. Party advertises on Celebrity Poker Showdown, for instance.

Are you saying that there is no bet pot button on Party? Because there is...

And for me, it can lead to a lot of people making lazy bets and for some players to give away tells. I know its hard to get odds if people are betting pots but it has certainly never put me off Party in the slightest...

[David_Nicoson]

Are you saying that there is no bet pot button on Party? Because there is...

And for me, it can lead to a lot of people making lazy bets and for some players to give away tells. I know its hard to get odds if people are betting pots but it has certainly never put me off Party in the slightest...

I stand corrected. I was relying on the original poster, because I play on Party very little.

I took a look myself, and I have to say that their implementation is half-hearted. I see "bet-pot" as a preselect button (sometimes, but not preflop when I'm in the blind, apparently). But then the option disappears when it's my actual turn to act. I don't think I'd ever want to preselect betting the pot.

[Scott3705]

I really hate the bet the pot button just because. I don't like betting the pot every street and when I played full tilt .25/.50 betting less than the pot was intrepretting as weakness a lot of the times (but not enough of the time that I could really use it as a feign weakness type play). I really hate it deep in tourneys where a 1/2 pot bet should be sufficient but you will always run into a guy who is going to take it as weakness because the standard is bet the pot.

(This is just on top of the fact that is already stated, "donks not giving good prices to draw")

[Kaedin]

I normally hate the bet pot button, but there are special cases where I love the bet pot button. Those cases would be where Im last to act and have hit a big hand, and the pf raiser or some other ****** bets pot from up front and pretty much commits themselves. Those are good times.

[myenemy]

I really hate the bet the pot button just because. I don't like betting the pot every street and when I played full tilt .25/.50 betting less than the pot was intrepretting as weakness a lot of the times (but not enough of the time that I could really use it as a feign weakness type play). I really hate it deep in tourneys where a 1/2 pot bet should be sufficient but you will always run into a guy who is going to take it as weakness because the standard is bet the pot.

(This is just on top of the fact that is already stated, "donks not giving good prices to draw")

I freaking hate the bet pot button for this exact reason. Some donk thinks you're weak for betting less and overbets a BS hand which you now call and either price him or yourself in for whatever comes. You end up having to always bet at least the pot to show strength, typically I prefer to show strength strong or not, so this button doesn't help me when Im faking weakness.

I wonder why, in the genius of poker websites, they implemented this button in the first place. The cynic's answer, I'm sure, will be, 'to make bigger pots' but is that really it or is it just a big mistake?

[Gallo]

I really hate the bet the pot button just because. I don't like betting the pot every street and when I played full tilt .25/.50 betting less than the pot was intrepretting as weakness a lot of the times (but not enough of the time that I could really use it as a feign weakness type play). I really hate it deep in tourneys where a 1/2 pot bet should be sufficient but you will always run into a guy who is going to take it as weakness because the standard is bet the pot.

(This is just on top of the fact that is already stated, "donks not giving good prices to draw")

I rarely use the "bet pot" button at FTP, unless I basically go all in. But I think that because I don't usually bet the pot, some idiots take it as weakness andwill at times come over the top and for the most part suckout with middle pair or something.

At the same time, I like it when people do use the bet pot option and I hit a very big hand against them because they think that top pair with 10 kicker is good.

I used to use the bet pot option, but after reading Harrington's book, I rarely do. I don't like to bet pot because I like to disguise my hands' strength or weakness. I just think it's harder to geta betting tell when you don't bet pot all the time.

[Kaedin]

Yea, on UB people think you have to bet pot when you have a hand. You know what? I don't care. I bet almost the same amount whether i have a hand or don't. So if they think im weak, I encourage them to come over the top. Maybe I have nothing. Maybe I have a monster... if I have a monster, they're getting stacked, and if I have nothing, I didnt BET THE POT and donkey off extra money just because im a lazy monkey

[Gallo]

Yea, on UB people think you have to bet pot when you have a hand. You know what? I don't care. I bet almost the same amount whether i have a hand or don't. So if they think im weak, I encourage them to come over the top. Maybe I have nothing. Maybe I have a monster... if I have a monster, they're getting stacked, and if I have nothing, I didnt BET THE POT and donkey off extra money just because im a lazy monkey

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