Slow Clap 0 Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 100 NL .50/1Villain: $116.60Hero: 86.80no readsPreflop: Hero is UTG with Ad AhHero raises to $3, Villain in SB callsFlop: Kh 8d 3cVillain checks, Hero bets $3, Villain callsTurn: JdVillain checks, Hero bets $7, Villain callsRiver: QdVillain bets $35, Hero? Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Hero calls.I think you need to bet more on the flop/turn.Get the money in with your big hands ba-ba-bay-baaaeee.Bet at least 2/3s of the pot. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Need to bet more on the flop on the turn. You basically allowed him to chase running diamonds or a straight. I easily fold this river the way you played it. Link to post Share on other sites
Garn 0 Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 yeah easy fold. u r beat by flush/straight/2pair. You have gotta be more aggressive on the flop and turn Link to post Share on other sites
swahnroger 0 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Fold, fold, then you fold some more. Link to post Share on other sites
crankin 0 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 I'd have to fold here. And like everybody else said, you needed to bet more on the flop, and definitely more on the turn.Unlikely some of the others, I don't think villain has a straight or a flush. There were no straight or flush draws on that flop, and Villain still called. Since he didn't check/raise, he either has a piece of it or some kind of pocket pair smaller than Kings. On the turn, he still just check/calls, which (unless he's really smart/tricky -- see below) says he'd like to see a reasonably priced showdown. And, then on the river, he leads with an overbet. Which is either a donkey move, or is intended to look like one. I think it is the latter.My best guess is that villain has KQ and made his hand on the river. I suspect he was a little afraid of AK on the flop and turn, and then hit his two pair on the river. He overbets hoping you'll think it's a bluff.Other possible hands for villain are JJ (which would warrant a call on the flop, and then sets you up on the turn), QQ (which would explain the overbet on the river, but seems like he would have re-raised pre-flop), or 88/33 which he slow played (normally not a good idea, but that flop and turn aren't really that scary for a set).I don't really see any other likely holdings for Villain. How many people at the table? Any reads on villain? In particular, has he made any other overbets like this? Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 You have $13 in the pot and are faced with a bet of $35 and you have one pair. FOllLllLD.This is 2-pair or better. This is AdKd, KQ/KJ pair, Kd10d or possibly a poorly played set (or a lucky QQ). Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Hero calls.Put the crack pipe down. People who call on this river with AA are known as "suckers".Don't be one.good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
petersun 0 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Pot the flop. Pot the turn. Fold to any strength on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 If we aren't betting more preflop, I see no reason to bet more on the flop.Flop is drawless.Paying him off for hitting the flop hard, when we only charged 1/30th of our stack preflop, seems silly.1/2 pot on both streets is cutting his odds to hit back door draws fine.just don't pay off the river.keep pot size manageble, or Raise more preflop and don't give the implied odds potential to start with.imo. Link to post Share on other sites
rusmac31 0 Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 I agree with Actuary...flop bet and turn bet were fine...large enough to give villian incorrect odds to chase and kept the pot manageable.I also agree that you should fold the river and wait for a better hand.Well played. Link to post Share on other sites
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