Kaedin 0 Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Yea, bein great at $50 NL is like bein the hottest player in the WNBA, i know, but i just flopped set over set on a guy (First time ever) and before he called my river bet, the guy says to me 'i hate paying you off, i know you have an over set, but i cant fold it.Keep in mind, he never reraised me on any street and called it cold based on his read of me. Spooky. I know, no one gives a **** forum is down the street. Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Yea, bein great at $50 NL is like bein the hottest player in the WNBA, i know, but i just flopped set over set on a guy (First time ever) and before he called my river bet, the guy says to me 'i hate paying you off, i know you have an over set, but i cant fold it.Keep in mind, he never reraised me on any street and called it cold based on his read of me. Spooky. I know, no one gives a **** forum i hs down the street.nah, he's not that perceptive. If he really knew, he would fold. Link to post Share on other sites
Kaedin 0 Posted April 29, 2006 Author Share Posted April 29, 2006 nah, he's not that perceptive. If he really knew, he would fold.I aint foldin kings preflop and i aint foldin a set? i dunno. He said it before he saw the cards. Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 I aint foldin kings preflop and i aint foldin a set? i dunno. He said it before he saw the cards.I guess you are referring to my previous posts with the former comments? I know he said it before seeing the cards but I'm sure that he has said stuff like that before and been wrong. The odds of set over set are about 1 in 100. He's worried about he overset, of course he can't fold andt hoping that he's up against 2 pair or an underset. Now, if he could guess what you had consistently, that would be scary. Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Calling when he knows he's beat is why he's a $50 buy in player.good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Calling when he knows he's beat is why he's a $50 buy in player.good luck.Have you ever folded a set when the only thing that can beat you is a bigger set? Link to post Share on other sites
Kaedin 0 Posted May 1, 2006 Author Share Posted May 1, 2006 Have you ever folded a set when the only thing that can beat you is a bigger set?im sorry. if i flop a set and someone shows strenght, not only am i not folding, im probably gettin all the money in. I guess thats what shocked me the most Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 The problem with $50 NL players "knowing," they're beat is that if they folded every time they "knew" they were beat they'd be mucking a ton of winners. Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Have you ever folded a set when the only thing that can beat you is a bigger set?Yes.good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Have you ever folded a set when the only thing that can beat you is a bigger set?Yes.good luck.Care to describe the situation? Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Care to describe the situation?I've folded bottom set a couple of times against players who won't move in with two pair or an over pair, but do.Not that big of a deal.good luck Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Care to describe the situation?I've folded bottom set a couple of times against players who won't move in with two pair or an over pair, but do.Not that big of a deal.good luckDo you feel in retrospect that it was a mistake to play your small pair to the flop in any of these cases? If the guy won't pay you off, perhaps we shouldn't call his raise speculatively. Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Do you feel in retrospect that it was a mistake to play your small pair to the flop in any of these cases? If the guy won't pay you off, perhaps we shouldn't call his raise speculatively.I didn't say they wouldn't call my all in with an overpair. Just that they wouldn't lead-push.Also getting paid off when you hit a set doesn't mean you have to get the whole stack for it to be worthwile, just 8x the flop riase.good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Do you feel in retrospect that it was a mistake to play your small pair to the flop in any of these cases? If the guy won't pay you off, perhaps we shouldn't call his raise speculatively.I didn't say they wouldn't call my all in with an overpair. Just that they wouldn't lead-push.Also getting paid off when you hit a set doesn't mean you have to get the whole stack for it to be worthwile, just 8x the flop riase.good luck.Point taken, but 8x isn't quite enough. We're going to get beat some of those times we make a set. The player who would never push with top two is fairly rare, so I thought there might be something specific about the scenarios that you could share. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Yea, bein great at $50 NL is like bein the hottest player in the WNBA, i know, but i just flopped set over set on a guy (First time ever) and before he called my river bet, the guy says to me 'i hate paying you off, i know you have an over set, but i cant fold it.Keep in mind, he never reraised me on any street and called it cold based on his read of me. Spooky. I know, no one gives a **** forum is down the street. i think this has the potential to be a very popular phrasekudos sir Link to post Share on other sites
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