jcdoerre, on Friday, April 28th, 2006, 4:10 PM, said:
Just to answer shimmering wang, I definitely see what you mean about being in trouble if certain cards hit, but I'm not entirely sure why those cards aren't going to be trouble if you raise as well. I don't see SB or MP folding to a raise when they already put money in, and I have no idea what I do if SB re-raises me. Not that I shouldn't make the play because I'm scared of the re-raise, but the fact of the matter is I have no idea where I am in this hand. I think you are all correct and a raise is correct here, I just think it's very close and a check isn't that bad.As it turned out, the button had pocket jacks, but that doesn't really change whether a raise or a call was the correct play.
Well, if a bad card comes and you get outdrawn by MP or BB or SB, you're going to lose the hand. But raising the flop could force the button to make a mistake (by calling) or win you the pot (when he folds overs or middle/bottom pair or a gutshot).At the same time, you make the hand easy to play, and can define your opponents' hands cheaply. By raising the flop, you force your oppoenents to raise ONLY when they have you beaten. If a baby spade comes off, and you bet the turn, but get check/raised, you're probably beaten and can safely fold (absent reads). If the Ac slides off, you can follow the same reasoning. If a safe card comes on the turn, go ahead and bet again. Then, if a scare card rolls off on the river and the pot's still 3 handed, you can just go ahead and check behind. Look, there are so FEW cards you can safely raise for value on the turn that you have to do it now. Even if an ugly card comes off, and you STILL have the best hand, you're no longer going to get value from your opponents. Many players will simply check/fold a spade with no spade draw, or an over when they whiff the turn. You rate to have enough equity to pound the flop, so take advantage since you're in position.Man, I'm drunk again. Maybe I'll clean this up later.Wang