XXEddie 0 Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 .25/.50 NL6 handedHero-29Villain-36Hero dealt Ks Ts1 fold, Hero calls, 3 fold, SB(Villian) raise to 2.25, BB fold, Hero callsHave position and a nice hand to see a flop withflop Ah Qh AdVillain bets 2, Hero raises to 4, Villian callsI had used this play earlier and it had been working. I didnt think he'd bet an A so I tryed min-raising to "price him in" so I can bluff the turn and hopefully make him foldturn Jh Villain bets 4, Hero callsinteresting turn, puts the flush out there, I decided just to call, didnt wanna get in too deepRiver QsHorrible/good river. If he has an A or Q, he has me now, but if he has the flush I wont lose any more moneyVillian checksI dont see what I can beat here, maybe I could try to force him off a flush decide not toHero checksVillian shows (? ?) bonus point if you guess it Link to post Share on other sites
nomad_monad 0 Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Villian shows (? ?) bonus point if you guess itKK with the K of hearts Link to post Share on other sites
gooch 0 Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 KT of clubs? Link to post Share on other sites
godoffrisbee 0 Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I think he has A7, and is afraid of the flush/straight possibilities. I think we should bet here because the only thing that will raise us is a boat, and he will just call with a flush or straight, so we won't really "lose" any money per say. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 how bout some hand analysis also Link to post Share on other sites
nomad_monad 0 Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 how bout some hand analysis alsoi think it's fineif stacks were deeper i would probably pop the turn - the villain looks like he's trying to buy a cheap draw/showdown. if not, at least it gets us better hand definition to stop the hand right there. as it stands, any reasonable turn raise will commit you to a pretty scary board so i'd just do what you did.the only thing i might change is that instead of minraising his flop bet, i might just call and then raise the turn, assuming he either checks the turn or leads weak like he did. with the board that's there, a smooth call is likely to slow down the villain for the purposes of moving him off the pot just as much as any raise is. assuming you did that, since both the pot and his weak lead should be smaller, you can raise the turn without committing yourself to calling any sort of re-raise or river push (i.e. if he leads 3, you pop to 10, and he pushes the turn or river, you're getting only something like 2.8-1 to call). Link to post Share on other sites
offset 0 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Much better to raise than limp preflop. Your tricky little min raise flop, bet the turn play has to work over half the time to break even. At 50nl this is chip spewing overkill. If you want to push him out raise to 6-8$ or call and bet the turn, but be sure he will fold if he doesn't have anything. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted May 1, 2006 Author Share Posted May 1, 2006 Much better to raise than limp preflop. Your tricky little min raise flop, bet the turn play has to work over half the time to break even. At 50nl this is chip spewing overkill. If you want to push him out raise to 6-8$ or call and bet the turn, but be sure he will fold if he doesn't have anything.Normally I would but potraiser seems to be a "flop-lover" site where there seemed to be 3-4 people per pot limped Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Much better to raise than limp preflop. Your tricky little min raise flop, bet the turn play has to work over half the time to break even. At 50nl this is chip spewing overkill. If you want to push him out raise to 6-8$ or call and bet the turn, but be sure he will fold if he doesn't have anything.I disagree about raising being better than limping at 0.25/0.50. KT is an awful hand with so-so draw potential. Your opponents suck and make a lot of mistakes post-flop so your goal should be to see the flop as cheaply as possible and capitalize on their mistakes (unless of course you have a strong hand pf). Link to post Share on other sites
offset 0 Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 I disagree about raising being better than limping at 0.25/0.50. KT is an awful hand with so-so draw potential. Your opponents suck and make a lot of mistakes post-flop so your goal should be to see the flop as cheaply as possible and capitalize on their mistakes (unless of course you have a strong hand pf).I guess I spoke too soon. You're right. It is table dependent. At a super loose passive table I am also limping, but I don't know if I'm calling the sb's raise w/o a read. Link to post Share on other sites
cu in 4years Dan 1 Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 .25/.50 NL6 handedHero-29Villain-36Hero dealt Ks Ts1 fold, Hero calls, 3 fold, SB(Villian) raise to 2.25, BB fold, Hero callsHave position and a nice hand to see a flop withflop Ah Qh AdVillain bets 2, Hero raises to 4, Villian callsI had used this play earlier and it had been working. I didnt think he'd bet an A so I tryed min-raising to "price him in" so I can bluff the turn and hopefully make him foldturn Jh Villain bets 4, Hero callsinteresting turn, puts the flush out there, I decided just to call, didnt wanna get in too deepRiver QsHorrible/good river. If he has an A or Q, he has me now, but if he has the flush I wont lose any more moneyVillian checksI dont see what I can beat here, maybe I could try to force him off a flush decide not toHero checksVillian shows (? ?) bonus point if you guess itshotgun that he has a Q Link to post Share on other sites
gavindagr8 0 Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Pocket Jacks Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted May 2, 2006 Author Share Posted May 2, 2006 kjyeahno heart either Link to post Share on other sites
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