Pot A Donk. Or Donk A Pot?

[Jordan 1]

The following are my notes on villian:KEY: c = check, c/r = check/raise, pf = pre-flop, t = turn, UI = Unimprovedlimp A8s utgc/r 6 to 22 on flop w trips in raised potc/r min on flop in raised pot w OESD. t bet 10 ui, riv bet 15 ui..lololololmin raise turn w 2Pmay c JJ in bb s sblimp A7o utg. call 5 more. flop 333 n bet 10. t A n bet 15call 4 pf w A5o, flop J73 n call 5, t A n raise 10 to 25...bet 4 on flop w oesd, t bet 5 ui, call 14 more..riv str8 n c/c cuz of possible flush.wonlimp A5s utg. call min raise. flop KJQ n c/c 4.87, t call 8.57, riv is 9 n bet 15...LOLmin raise 52o, flop AQ6r, n bet 2, t J, bet 7, riv 9c bet 8limp 44 utg. call down on QJx9 board..in min raiased flop. lost to Q7limp QTs, flop dbl gutshot n raise 3 to 10 w A on board..calls 35 more all incall 4 pf w 69o in sb. flop K95 n bet 5, is min raised n call..t K n bet 10, call min raise..riv A n c..lost to QQlimp AQo utg, c flop ui, t raise 3 to 5, riv bet 15 w nada..call 4 pf w 88. flop Q78 n raise from 10 to 30 w set..call all in. beat AAbet 4 on btn w J6s, flop FD + btm pair n bet 10 into 8..he's a donkey. loose/passive preflop. Pretty passive postflop.---Seat 4 is the buttonTotal number of players : 6 Seat 4: Villian (BTN( $369.60 )Seat 6: HERO (BB)( $183.02 )Dealt to Hero [ Kh As ]CO raises [$3].Villian calls [$3].sb foldsHERO raises [$11].CO folds.villian calls [$9].** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, Jh, 9c ]Hero bets [$22].Villian calls [$22].** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]Hero bets [$35].villian calls [$35].** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]Hero...--- Jordan

[GrinderMJ 0]

What do you think his likely range is to call down to the river like this, with you showing tons of strength the whole way through?

[Jordan 1]

KxQx9xpocket pair.Gutshot. - Jordan

[GoCryWolfe 0]

I'm not sure what the question is...if he has you beat, it is with Q10, not a 9. Or, possibly a KJ for a better 2 pair. I think you have to check/call.

[Jordan 1]

I'm not sure what the question is...if he has you beat, it is with Q10, not a 9. Or, possibly a KJ for a better 2 pair. I think you have to check/call.

turn was where i found out if he had two pair or a straight.I didn't think he had either one of QT or KJ.--Basically my question is...if we lead..how much? if we check, are we willing to call all in?He was sporadic with his bluffs. He loved to bluff, but rarely did it against me. I was planning to check/call if I indeed did check. However, I was slightly 'nervous' that if i checked he'd check behind...- Jordan

[GoCryWolfe 0]

So are you suggesting he has a hand similar to KQ? Top pair, 2nd kicker, and a gutter to go along with it? I also don't see this as a backdoor flush either. So even if he bets on the river when checked to, he is probably trying to represent the flush. That seems like a reasonable hand. No matter what, if we check, he is going to bet. What hand could he have that would call the whole way and then check the river? We just have to muster the courage and call it down and see either we got kicked in the balls with a Q10 or that we had him dominated with a KQ.Now that I think about it a lil more... is anyone else thinking a possible AA? The cutoff raised, the button called, folded around and button calls? I still think the more likely hand is KQ, but AA is remotely possible?

[iggymcfly 0]

From your notes, he looks more like a guy who hates to give up on a pot after he has money invested, than someone who loves to bluff for the sake of bluffing. Honestly, if you really think he was calling you down with something like top pair or pair and a gutshot, I think your best play might be to lead weak with the intent of inducing a bluff.I bet that if you bet something like $30 or $35 here, QQ, QJ, JT, TT, and maybe even KT will be pushing all day here. This is a really read-dependent play though, and without actually playing with him, I can't say for sure that that would be the right move.