Was This Allin Unnecessary?

[XXEddie 0]

first im going to show you a previous hand in which i based my play onhad TT with 3k in chips, blinds 25/50Villan(same one from the hand in question) Limps, I rase to 200 he calls leaing him was 350flop is 7 high, he min-bets i put him allin he foldNOWblinds 50/100i have 5k in chips(half the chip, I was dominating)Villain has 900 chipsVillain limps, I raise to 400 with 95o, villian calls, leaving him self 500flop is AJ3, Villian min-bets-again and I move inWhy did I do this1. His play was excat to the previous hand where he folded so I knew I had a good chance of getting him out2. I had 5k, 2nd had 2200, no one else had 1000 of the 5 left. Losing this hand will still stand me as dominate chip leaderan agruement against itthe AJ3 flop ismore likely hit villain as opposed to the 7 high flop, so i might be throwing money away

[bdc30 0]

The guy had almost half of his stack already in the potpreflop. He's already made up his mind that this is his hand to play, for better or worse. He's calling no matterwhat he's got after the flop, and anything he's got likelyhas your nothing-high completely demolished.You had two chances to win this pot, first was for him to foldpreflop, the second was to hit a great flop. You missed both.Once you miss on the flop, you might as well check/foldand save yourself the extra 500 chips.I see what you're trying to say with the idea that he folded toyour push in the first hand, but honestly, look at the board cardseach time. The first flop hits very few hands that call a raise PF,the second flop hits or gives good draws to a ton of hands that call raises PF.Oh, and post these in the tourney forum. This forum is for NL cash games, where sometimes the strategies can be totally different.

[tapeworm 0]

yeah, what bdc said. One big difference is the flop textures. He likely missed the 7 high flop. Another big difference is that it is much later in the tourney and this guy is desperate. He should call the push with any piece or any draw.

[XXEddie 0]

The guy had almost half of his stack already in the potpreflop. He's already made up his mind that this is his hand to play, for better or worse. He's calling no matterwhat he's got after the flop, and anything he's got likelyhas your nothing-high completely demolished.If he likely was calling no matter what he had dont you think you woulda called on the 7 high flop too considering he probably had to oversYou had two chances to win this pot, first was for him to foldpreflop, the second was to hit a great flop. You missed both.Once you miss on the flop, you might as well check/foldand save yourself the extra 500 chips.I was able to take the risk that he has K or Q high(for potraiser thats not a bad strecth) or possible fold a bottom pair because all the short stacks were trying to wait for other to get knocked out, besides even if I lose I still hlaf twice as much as 2nd placeI see what you're trying to say with the idea that he folded toyour push in the first hand, but honestly, look at the board cardseach time. The first flop hits very few hands that call a raise PF,the second flop hits or gives good draws to a ton of hands that call raises PF.Again, the first hand he had to have something horrible because even a donk pushes with a hand like K8/ T9 and if he has a similar hand he got no piece of the flop and will again foldOh, and post these in the tourney forum. This forum is for NL cash games, where sometimes the strategies can be totally different.more/smarter player are here, tourney forum is deserted compared to this one.

[Swift_Psycho 1]

more/smarter player are here, tourney forum is deserted compared to this one.

Smarter? Don't spend too much time reading posts in the tourney forum, do you?

[Scott3705 0]

Smarter? Don't spend too much time reading posts in the tourney forum, do you?

Agreed, and I don't even post in tourney anymore. god I miss college.

[Smasharoo 0]

I've never played money tournament so I couldn't really comment on your play.Good luck.

[Actuary 3]

95 off raise to 400?maybe that's what's missing from my game when I"m a chip leader.

[rusmac31 0]

1. don't raise 95os when your chip stack is 2.5x larger than 2nd and 5x larger than 3rd - x.2. What hands would he call 1/2 his stack that don't have an A or J in in them?KQ? You'd think he's re-raising pre-flop with KK, QQ, 1010, 99, 88 and maybe 77 and he's folding pairs lower than that.2. He's committed almost 60% of his stack, more likely than not, he's calling no matter what the flop is. Plus, if he's any type of player, he'll remember your play from the hand before and min-bet with any piece of that board to get you to push...and he flips over Ax or Jx and doubles through you.Personally, it's these types of plays that are leaks during tournament play...fold 95os and wait for a better hand...you have the chips.my 2 cents.

[XXEddie 0]

95 off raise to 400?maybe that's what's missing from my game when I"m a chip leader.

it wasnt really my stack, it was that everyone else was so short I thought they might played scared and fold and try to wait for others to go outheres a sick part, he called with 99 and I went runner-runner str8 :-)

[Suited_Up 2]

Don't raise shorstacks with junk.The end.