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$30 Party SNGParty Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converterHero (t835)SB (t660)BB (t770)UTG (t685)UTG+1 (t1050)UTG+2 (t800)MP1 (t900)MP2 (t775)MP3 (t755)CO (t770)Preflop: Hero is Button with K , Q . UTG calls t15, 3 folds, MP2 calls t15, MP3 calls t15, 1 fold, Hero calls t15, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (t90) T , 9 , K (6 players)SB checks, BB bets t15, UTG calls t15, MP2 calls t15, MP3 calls t15, Hero calls t15, SB folds.Turn: (t165) 7 (5 players)BB bets t35, UTG calls t35, MP2 calls t35, MP3 folds, Hero calls t35.River: (t305) T (4 players)BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets t150, Hero calls t150, BB folds, UTG folds.I thought for 20 seconds before making the river call. I'm pretty sure MP2 has a T or a busted draw. If he had a king, then he would most likely check the river b/c he would only be called by a better hand. Anyone else fold the river? Did I miss a raise somewhere?

The above isn't my hand but has been discussed heavily and two main options have come up.Option 1: Raise the flop to about 150Option 2: Wait till the turn and make a raise in the 250 range.Option 3: Anything else.

[Jtmaroon84]

Flop: (t90) T Suit: Heart , 9 Suit: Heart , K Suit: Club (6 players)SB checks, BB bets t15, UTG calls t15, MP2 calls t15, MP3 calls t15, Hero calls t15, SB folds. Ewwww, so passiveSome advice to whoever's hand this is. Raise preflop, raise the flop.

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1. I'd consider folding preflop. You can kill your chances at cashing, but doubling up doesn't happen enough, nor does it fully double your equity. KQ off can be a trouble hand, you're facing a bunch of hands and because tournament equity is somewhat dissociated from chip count. Winning a 5-limped pot won't change much compared to the risk exposure, especially since you're playing to make tpgk, not anything truly thrilling that can drum up action and win a big pot. Suitedness would help here A LOT. If a big pot is played and you can be a part of it, you're in a bad way unless you've got a boat. KQo is a win small/lose big hand vs. 5 players. I honestly think that hand can be +chip EV and yet still -cash EV, as you'll make a near-insignificant positive change in tournament equity often and absolutely screw yourself when you do go down. Call it weak-tight, but that's how I roll early. I'd rather play 67s than KQ the way you're going (and still wouldn't, but I'd limp a small to mid pair there, raise a big one about 9-11xBB)2. Dear god, how do you smoothcall that flop. Raise the pot. You have top pair good kicker on a coordinated board 2-suited. You need to deny draws and gain information, or give it up. The only person you can trap here is yourself. Ick Ick Ick censored ICK. You DO NOT want to see another card. 3 9's, 3 10's, 11 hearts, 2 queens, 3 Jacks... 22 of the 47 remaining cards scare the BEJEZUS outta you when you see them and get action (making trips or a 4-card straight, or a 3-flush on the board). 3. Your particular river call: Note that the bettor shut down. I'd put them on the failed draw, especially with the ridiculously small bets they made and the number of people they bet into. Also, you had 2 still to act behind you, and your opponent is betting into not just you but also someone who called down (and may be sandbagging a 10) and the original bettor, who was betting weakly and gave up, but still, while they folded, they were still a problem when you call down. Furthermore, a 1/2 pot bet into 4 people, one of whom led the flop and turn (though as I said, is the most likely candidate for the missed draw, I'm worrying about the call-down guy)... doesn't make me go "that's a bluff from a busted draw". Turn play... I don't know how to discuss because I would never be in your set of circumstances on the turn. I fold preflop, or raise the flop and have more knowledge and fewer opponents to deal with.

[alexquigley]

Raise the flop. Big. Size-of-the-pot big. You gotta know you've probably got the best hand.

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As i said this isn't my hand, and the person who played it said he wasnt happy with how he played it. There are some problems with raising about the pot. You open the betting up for someone to reraise you, which i assume means youhave to lay the hand down, You now gave up 20-25% of your stack. The other problem is you probably arn't betting enough to get the real draws out, (it's party and you're nearly laying the right odds for the first guy to draw at a hand, after the first call, all other draws have to stay in as well. So now you've put 20-25% of your stack in, and you still have the draws. Now what do you when then 50% scare comes? That is why I suggest a wait until the turn. If the board comes a scare you can get out with almost no harm (less than if you raised preflop and had to lay it down) If the board comes a blank you are now pretty sure of your hand being good, and can make a bet to get some players out, far fewer players will call with 1 card to come.