amarillotg 0 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 villain is loose passive.Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T, T. 5 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.Flop: (6.50 SB) Q, A, Q(3 players)BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB folds.Turn: (4.25 BB) 4(2 players)Hero bets, Button calls.River: (6.25 BB) 9(2 players)Hero bets, Button calls.Final Pot: 8.25 BB Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I don't like the river bet.What's calling us that we beat?Would c/c be better? Induce a bluff from a busted draw... Link to post Share on other sites
NatalieGulbisFan 0 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I don't like the river bet.What's calling us that we beat?Would c/c be better? Induce a bluff from a busted draw...Agreed. I don't mind the flop bet. The turn bet is debatable I think, but I'd bet it more than half the time. The River would usually be a check-call IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Agreed. I don't mind the flop bet. The turn bet is debatable I think, but I'd bet it more than half the time. The River would usually be a check-call IMO.It's probably close to a c/f if the villain really is loose passive... Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I dont want to check/fold if i dont know the guy really well.Even the most passive of monkeys grow a pair of testicles when you show such obvious weakness.For me, it's between check/call and bet/fold. And the choice depends on how loose he is. The looser, the more inclined you should be to bet/fold. His WTSD would be a relevant stat, but i dont know what the figure would have to be to make it a bet versus a check. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 c/c river.Abba, I think he'd have to be REALLY LOOOOOOOSE and PASSIVE to bet here.We are an underdog when he calls or bets.But I think we fair better against his betting hands, given the board texture and prior play.And, hopefully, he doesn't bet.I may be all wet.whooo hoooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!Friday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I don't like the river bet.What's calling us that we beat?Would c/c be better? Induce a bluff from a busted draw...Smaller pockets. Theres just about as many of them as Ax hands, I think.Anyway, I like this hand. I bet the river, because I don't expect the loose passive to bluff that often, or value bet weaker hands. If he has an ace, you're ****ed iether way. If you chekc, and he bets, youre in a tough spot. Some loose passives won't bluff or value bet, others will closer to optimally than TAGs do. If you check, I think you have to fold. 0EV. I think that a bet has +ve value, even though you're an underdog. Link to post Share on other sites
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