A Plo8 1k River Decision

[JacKingOff_suit 0]

Backgrounds.This was the table I joined after Chamonyx left with some doughs. The reason I joined was because I was waiting for a good seat there. Table selection is important, if I don't feel like I have an edge then I simply will not join the party.I finally got a seat on the immediate left of one of the WSOP ME winners who had about 2k (I had mentioned in one of my posts that while he is a great NLH player, but he was not and still isn't so great at plo8), and I wanted to take advantage of that.The following hand was 7-handed. It involved me, SB and my immediate left.BB was a poor player who doubled me up thru this previous hand (BTW I bought in short for $400).PokerStars Game #...398: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($5/$10) - 2006/04/20 - 00:57:03 (ET)Seat #3 is the button (that's me).Seat 2: wsop_me_winner ($1834.85 in chips) Seat 3: jkosfcp ($454.50 in chips) Seat 4: UTG+1_LATER_ON ($343 in chips) Seat 5: jbsiemers ($853.40 in chips) Seat 6: BigDash1 ($457 in chips) Seat 7: StuMan123 ($260 in chips) Seat 8: Stevo72 ($1280.75 in chips) Seat 9: BB_LATER_ON ($820.50 in chips) UTG+1_LATER_ON: posts small blind $5jbsiemers: posts big blind $10*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jkosfcp [2s Td Ac Ad]BigDash1: folds StuMan123: folds Stevo72: raises $20 to $30BB_LATER_ON: calls $30wsop_me_winner: folds jkosfcp: raises $105 to $135UTG+1_LATER_ON: folds jbsiemers: folds Stevo72: folds BB_LATER_ON: calls $105*** FLOP *** [As 3s 9c]BB_LATER_ON: checks jkosfcp: bets $312BB_LATER_ON: raises $312 to $624jkosfcp: calls $7.50 and is all-in*** TURN *** [As 3s 9c] [Th]*** RIVER *** [As 3s 9c Th] [3h]*** SHOW DOWN ***BB_LATER_ON: shows [6s 5h Ah 3c] (HI: a full house, Threes full of Aces)jkosfcp: shows [2s Td Ac Ad] (HI: a full house, Aces full of Threes)jkosfcp collected $951 from pot(Btw, WTF was Stevo72 raising on preflop?)Now here's the actual hand to make a decision.PokerStars Game #...91: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($5/$10) - 2006/04/20 - 01:06:23 (ET)Table 'Thule III' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 2: wsop_me_winner ($1706.40 in chips) Seat 3: jkosfcp ($966 in chips) Seat 4: UTG+1($460 in chips) Seat 5: jbsiemers ($805.40 in chips) Seat 6: BigDash1 ($422 in chips) Seat 7: StuMan123 ($530.50 in chips) Seat 9: BB ($759 in chips) StuMan123: posts small blind $5BB: posts big blind $10*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jkosfcp [3h 2c 6h Ah] (UTG)wsop_me_winner: folds jkosfcp: calls $10UTG+1: calls $10jbsiemers: folds BigDash1: folds StuMan123: calls $5BB: checks *** FLOP *** [8c 9h 6d]StuMan123: checks BB: checks jkosfcp: checks UTG+1: checks *** TURN *** [8c 9h 6d] [5h]StuMan123: checks BB: bets $38jkosfcp: calls $38UTG+1: calls $38StuMan123: folds On the turn I thought about raising for my nut flush high draw (I had the made low+CF protection). But I think my hand wasn't a hand to raise. If I had a made hi and made low with redraws, sure I would. But my read was BB was betting on high on this coordinated board, if I raised I wasn't sure if I could knock out any one. They would be more likely put me on low. Another concern was if UTG+1 had a low also, he's the one who would call for the low even running the risk of getting quartered. I don't like to run a risk of getting 1/4'd against two donks. If I do get 1/4'd I would rather getting 1/4'd small than big. What if I completed my flush on the river then I wasn't building a pot ?!. My thinking was, a great made two-way hand warrants a big pot, a drawing hand doesn't.Would you have raised on the turn? Why?*** RIVER *** [8c 9h 6d 5h] [9d]BB: checksjkosfcp: ?Now, BB showed no strength, and UTG+1 had called along.Should I pot it here to try to bluff the whole pot representing I've got a boat by knocking them out? Could I knock out someone with the low? Do I have value in betting here?The decision had to be made quick or else....

[DonkSlayer 1]

Backgrounds.This was the table I joined after Chamonyx left with some doughs. The reason I joined was because I was waiting for a good seat there. Table selection is important, if I don't feel like I have an edge then I simply will not join the party.I finally got a seat on the immediate left of one of the WSOP ME winners who had about 2k (I had mentioned in one of my posts that while he is a great NLH player, but he was not and still isn't so great at plo8), and I wanted to take advantage of that.The following hand was 7-handed. It involved me, SB and my immediate left.BB was a poor player who doubled me up thru this previous hand (BTW I bought in short for $400).PokerStars Game #...398: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($5/$10) - 2006/04/20 - 00:57:03 (ET)Seat #3 is the button (that's me).Seat 2: wsop_me_winner ($1834.85 in chips) Seat 3: jkosfcp ($454.50 in chips) Seat 4: UTG+1_LATER_ON ($343 in chips) Seat 5: jbsiemers ($853.40 in chips) Seat 6: BigDash1 ($457 in chips) Seat 7: StuMan123 ($260 in chips) Seat 8: Stevo72 ($1280.75 in chips) Seat 9: BB_LATER_ON ($820.50 in chips) UTG+1_LATER_ON: posts small blind $5jbsiemers: posts big blind $10*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jkosfcp [2s Td Ac Ad]BigDash1: folds StuMan123: folds Stevo72: raises $20 to $30BB_LATER_ON: calls $30wsop_me_winner: folds jkosfcp: raises $105 to $135UTG+1_LATER_ON: folds jbsiemers: folds Stevo72: folds BB_LATER_ON: calls $105*** FLOP *** [As 3s 9c]BB_LATER_ON: checks jkosfcp: bets $312BB_LATER_ON: raises $312 to $624jkosfcp: calls $7.50 and is all-in*** TURN *** [As 3s 9c] [Th]*** RIVER *** [As 3s 9c Th] [3h]*** SHOW DOWN ***BB_LATER_ON: shows [6s 5h Ah 3c] (HI: a full house, Threes full of Aces)jkosfcp: shows [2s Td Ac Ad] (HI: a full house, Aces full of Threes)jkosfcp collected $951 from pot(Btw, WTF was Stevo72 raising on preflop?)Now here's the actual hand to make a decision.PokerStars Game #...91: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($5/$10) - 2006/04/20 - 01:06:23 (ET)Table 'Thule III' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 2: wsop_me_winner ($1706.40 in chips) Seat 3: jkosfcp ($966 in chips) Seat 4: UTG+1($460 in chips) Seat 5: jbsiemers ($805.40 in chips) Seat 6: BigDash1 ($422 in chips) Seat 7: StuMan123 ($530.50 in chips) Seat 9: BB ($759 in chips) StuMan123: posts small blind $5BB: posts big blind $10*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jkosfcp [3h 2c 6h Ah] (UTG)wsop_me_winner: folds jkosfcp: calls $10UTG+1: calls $10jbsiemers: folds BigDash1: folds StuMan123: calls $5BB: checks *** FLOP *** [8c 9h 6d]StuMan123: checks BB: checks jkosfcp: checks UTG+1: checks *** TURN *** [8c 9h 6d] [5h]StuMan123: checks BB: bets $38jkosfcp: calls $38UTG+1: calls $38StuMan123: folds On the turn I thought about raising for my nut flush high draw (I had the made low+CF protection). But I think my hand wasn't a hand to raise. If I had a made hi and made low with redraws, sure I would. But my read was BB was betting on high on this coordinated board, if I raised I wasn't sure if I could knock out any one. They would be more likely put me on low. Another concern was if UTG+1 had a low also, he's the one who would call for the low even running the risk of getting quartered. I don't like to run a risk of getting 1/4'd against two donks. If I do get 1/4'd I would rather getting 1/4'd small than big. What if I completed my flush on the river then I wasn't building a pot ?!. My thinking was, a great made two-way hand warrants a big pot, a drawing hand doesn't.Would you have raised on the turn? Why?*** RIVER *** [8c 9h 6d 5h] [9d]BB: checksjkosfcp: ?Now, BB showed no strength, and UTG+1 had called along.Should I pot it here to try to bluff the whole pot representing I've got a boat by knocking them out? Could I knock out someone with the low? Do I have value in betting here?The decision had to be made quick or else....

Nice play on the first hand.2nd hand tough decision. It seems ripe for a steal from betting the pot, but you don't know if you're getting called along b/c there's a set or b/c there's a straight ( I think set...) I would be very unconfident that the river didn't boat someone, with all the connector cards out there. I think I make a value bet big enough that a straight probably can't call, but small enough that it doesn't hurt too bad if you get quartered. Also, I'm raising this pf.

[Chamonyx 0]

Would you have raised on the turn? Why?

Yes. I have lock low, nut flush draw and a (small) pair. I prefer my hand much more against 1 opponent than 2. Player has come out betting on a str8 board so what does he need to have you in bad shape:A247, A2xy x,y[6,8,9,}Anything else and you are very comfortable - you WANT to charge the naked str8s and sets the max to draw, otherwise you are not capitalizing on your freerolls. BUT you have to get rid of the other lows in the process.It would be very hard for the third player to call pot, re-pot ahead of him with this board - but even if he does, you don't mind too much.Let's say you all call and the river is something boring. First seat bets out 164 into you, what do you do now? If you call then the chances are the third player does to with a low. If you are going to fold here then you shoudl fold the turn - and you shouldn't be playing ;-)As it is, with the river that comes, I pot it representing the boat, hoping to get the str8 to fold and that my 2 pair hold up for 3/4

[caviness36 0]

Yes. I have lock low, nut flush draw and a (small) pair. I prefer my hand much more against 1 opponent than 2. Player has come out betting on a str8 board so what does he need to have you in bad shape:A247, A2xy x,y[6,8,9,}Anything else and you are very comfortable - you WANT to charge the naked str8s and sets the max to draw, otherwise you are not capitalizing on your freerolls. BUT you have to get rid of the other lows in the process.It would be very hard for the third player to call pot, re-pot ahead of him with this board - but even if he does, you don't mind too much.Let's say you all call and the river is something boring. First seat bets out 164 into you, what do you do now? If you call then the chances are the third player does to with a low. If you are going to fold here then you shoudl fold the turn - and you shouldn't be playing ;-)As it is, with the river that comes, I pot it representing the boat, hoping to get the str8 to fold and that my 2 pair hold up for 3/4

I would pot the river to represent the boat. My opinion is that your lock low is probably good for half the pot, and your opponents may have been trolling with a straight plus Ace, 3. I would put them on a low draw and a made straight. If either one of your opponents had a straight plus a 1, 2 then you would have gotten a pot sized bet from UTG+1 on the turn, or a pot sized or large sized lead out bet from BB on the river. I think you're giving too much credit to your opponents here. UTG+1 is the only player with a chance to quarter you here. If BB really checked the lock low on the river, then I'd take my hat off to him for his play. But I highly doubt that's the case. Pot the river and represent the boat. The ONLY scenario I see where you get quartered is if UTG+1 also has the nut low and trip 9's. The key to this hand is the betting pattern. You failed to repot the turn, but you can regain the position you lost on the river by potting when the full house card hits. Just my .02

[JacKingOff_suit 0]

I considered raising the turn but UTG+1 was a call station and short-stacked, he probably won't be hesitated to call with A2. If he didn't have A2 it's ok to keep him in the pot as well. At that time I didn't think I had any fold equity raising two call stations. I worried too much about getting 1/4'd if UTG+1 had A2 and if he would be calling the raise.However I did feel like I missed a value bet on the river regardless of the situations. Here's the results.Seat 3: jkosfcp showed [3h 2c 6h Ah] and won ($75.50) with HI: two pair, Nines and Sixes; LO: 8,6,5,2,ASeat 4: UTG+1 mucked [2d 4d 3c 7d]Seat 9: BB (big blind) showed [Ks 4h 8s 7h] and won ($75.50) with HI: a straight, Five to Nine; LO: 8,7,6,5,4Yes I gave too much credit to UTG+1. Anyway I had much better ideas about both players after the hand.Now if I had raised the turn and knocked UTG+1 out. By the river the board paired what's my fold equity representing the boat?.......Let's start all over from the turn. (Sorry thse are the questions I am asking myself and trying to answer it by writing them down)1. When I am drawing to the flush high with a CF protected low on the turn, do I want to keep more players in or out? If I keep them in and the flush got there, can I extract more value (do I have the implied odds)?2. If I did knock out UTG+1 on the turn and a blank came, then it would be a split pot between me and BB, and I would had almost zero profit in this hand. In this hand at least I won ~$19.3. But $19 is nothing, on the river if a flush came or a scare card came I could had won much more because when I raised the turn, the pot was built and BB had to wonder if I had a bigger str8 or set or something. So it's either running the risk of splitting a close-to-zero-profitted pot but winning a bigger pot (by raising the turn), or running the risk of either getting 1/4'd lightly or winning a small pot by winning the low (by flat-calling the turn).4. The problem for me on the turn was I wasn't sure UTG+1 had A2 and would had called the raise even knowing he may be 1/4'd. There are just many players wouldn't lay down a made low hand (some idiots just wouldn't even a 2nd nut low).5. From 3 if it's a HU (me vs BB) then no question I would had raised the turn. In a 3-way pot...6. Ha finally I just got this and this one should be good. Since UTG+1 had about $460 left. Even if I got 1/4'd it wouldn't had hurt me much. Say 3 of us put $460 and I got 1/4'd, I would be losing $115 at worst. But by raising the turn I had much better fold equity and pot equity on the turn and river and the pot is much bigger.I checked the river because I took too much time to think and at last I realized the longer I took the more likely BB would be calling, the pot was small any way.

[GWCGWC 83]

This game seriously makes my head hurt.

[Cooker 0]

I would raise the turn for several reasons. First, if a flush card hits, then no one will probably call on the end. Second, you will often be freerolling made high only hands, and so you want the extra money going in with a nice edge. Third, you may even get a naked set, two pair, or top pair to fold and promote your high hand and allow you to do the quartering even if you miss (if I had a set on that board from UTG+1's position I am probably folding to a bet and a pot raise). Fourth, you may fold a naked nut low and save yourself from a quartering (I could fold a naked nut low to a bet and a pot raise). Fifth, even when you do end up against the monster hands (nut low + straight or set), you will still have outs. Sixth, image if the hand is shown. It shows that you aren't sitting around waiting on nut nut made hands. I think you have to bet strong draws aggressively to build big pots and maximize opponents mistakes. If you wait to make nut nut hands you will often get a small pot on the river.

[JacKingOff_suit 0]

How do y'all like those plays now?The first hand I just sit down at lo8, the 2nd was plo8, the 3rd was a plo8 trny. They are on-going right now.Actually I am feeling a little rusty at o8 as the last two weeks or so I've played much more on plo. I didn't feel like I've maxed my winnings on the 2nd hand.PokerStars Game #47463: Omaha Hi/Lo Limit ($5/$10) - 2006/04/26 - 00:05:14 (ET)Seat 1: Governator ($220 in chips) Seat 2: djshane2000 ($117 in chips) Seat 3: CritDaMasta ($45 in chips) Seat 4: NuclearEarth ($224 in chips) Seat 5: Road ($310 in chips) Seat 6: tatta ($268 in chips) Seat 7: 9752 ($67 in chips) Seat 8: BACALA ($183.50 in chips) Seat 9: greatbrit ($194 in chips) Seat 10: jkosfcp ($200 in chips) NuclearEarth: posts small blind $2Road: posts big blind $5jkosfcp: posts big blind $5 (JUST SIT DOWN)*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jkosfcp [Js 5s 9d 7s]tatta: folds 9752: folds BACALA: folds greatbrit: folds jkosfcp: checks Governator: calls $5djshane2000: calls $5CritDaMasta: calls $5NuclearEarth: calls $3Road: checks *** FLOP *** [3s 4s 9s]NuclearEarth: checks Road: checks jkosfcp: bets $5Governator: folds djshane2000: folds CritDaMasta: calls $5NuclearEarth: folds Road: folds *** TURN *** [3s 4s 9s] [4d]jkosfcp: bets $10CritDaMasta: calls $10*** RIVER *** [3s 4s 9s 4d] [9c]jkosfcp: checks CritDaMasta: bets $10jkosfcp: calls $10*** SHOW DOWN ***CritDaMasta: shows [2d 5c Qd 8h] (HI: a pair of Nines)jkosfcp: shows [Js 5s 9d 7s] (HI: a flush, Jack high)jkosfcp collected $77 from potNo low hand qualified*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $80 | Rake $3 Board [3s 4s 9s 4d 9c]Seat 1: Governator folded on the FlopSeat 2: djshane2000 folded on the FlopSeat 3: CritDaMasta (button) showed [2d 5c Qd 8h] and lost with HI: a pair of NinesSeat 4: NuclearEarth (small blind) folded on the FlopSeat 5: Road (big blind) folded on the FlopSeat 6: tatta folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: 9752 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: BACALA folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: greatbrit folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 10: jkosfcp showed [Js 5s 9d 7s] and won ($77) with HI: a flush, Jack highPokerStars Game #49: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/04/26 - 00:08:21 (ET)Seat 1: pot man I ($178.95 in chips) Seat 2: tonyncarrie ($32.15 in chips) Seat 3: jkosfcp ($149.85 in chips) (Sit down with $80)Seat 4: zivTLV ($268.05 in chips) Seat 5: cougan1 ($76.90 in chips) Seat 6: NECTAR29 ($153.35 in chips) Seat 7: I'm busy now ($205 in chips) Seat 8: BubbaNY ($169.80 in chips) Seat 9: luckybugs ($197 in chips) I'm busy now: posts small blind $1BubbaNY: posts big blind $2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jkosfcp [As 6h 3s 8c]luckybugs: calls $2pot man I: folds tonyncarrie: calls $2jkosfcp: calls $2zivTLV: raises $8 to $10cougan1: folds NECTAR29: folds I'm busy now: folds BubbaNY: calls $8luckybugs: calls $8tonyncarrie: calls $8jkosfcp: calls $8*** FLOP *** [3c 2s 8s]BubbaNY: checks luckybugs: checks tonyncarrie: checks jkosfcp: checks zivTLV: checks *** TURN *** [3c 2s 8s] [Ks]BubbaNY: bets $10luckybugs: calls $10tonyncarrie: calls $10jkosfcp: calls $10zivTLV: calls $10*** RIVER *** [3c 2s 8s Ks] [Th]BubbaNY: bets $10luckybugs: folds tonyncarrie: calls $10jkosfcp: raises $119.85 to $129.85 and is all-inzivTLV: folds BubbaNY: folds tonyncarrie: calls $2.15 and is all-in*** SHOW DOWN ***jkosfcp: shows [As 6h 3s 8c] (HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 8,6,3,2,A)tonyncarrie: shows [Td 6s 6d Ah] (HI: a pair of Tens; LO: 8,6,3,2,A)jkosfcp collected $66.15 from pottonyncarrie collected $33.10 from potjkosfcp collected $33.05 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $135.30 | Rake $3 Board [3c 2s 8s Ks Th]Seat 1: pot man I folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: tonyncarrie showed [Td 6s 6d Ah] and won ($33.10) with HI: a pair of Tens; LO: 8,6,3,2,ASeat 3: jkosfcp showed [As 6h 3s 8c] and won ($99.20) with HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 8,6,3,2,ASeat 4: zivTLV folded on the RiverSeat 5: cougan1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: NECTAR29 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: I'm busy now (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 8: BubbaNY (big blind) folded on the RiverSeat 9: luckybugs folded on the RiverPokerStars Game #903: Tournament #270, $20+$2 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/04/26 - 00:17:56 (ET)Seat 1: ShipMeUrMony (1420 in chips) Seat 2: blauman32 (1490 in chips) Seat 3: billegoat (1430 in chips) Seat 4: igthisone (1400 in chips) Seat 5: nikeEclipse (1480 in chips) Seat 6: jkosfcp (1570 in chips) Seat 7: dunzz (1500 in chips) Seat 8: CherylB (1420 in chips) Seat 9: bballew22 (1790 in chips) nikeEclipse: posts small blind 10jkosfcp: posts big blind 20*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jkosfcp [4s Td 6h 4d]dunzz: folds CherylB: folds bballew22: calls 20ShipMeUrMony: folds blauman32 has timed outblauman32: folds blauman32 is sitting outbillegoat: folds igthisone: folds blauman32 has returnednikeEclipse: calls 10jkosfcp: checks *** FLOP *** [Qd Qc 2c]nikeEclipse: checks jkosfcp: bets 60bballew22: calls 60nikeEclipse: folds *** TURN *** [Qd Qc 2c] [2s]jkosfcp: bets 180bballew22: folds jkosfcp collected 180 from potjkosfcp: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY ***Total pot 180 | Rake 0 Board [Qd Qc 2c 2s]Seat 1: ShipMeUrMony folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: blauman32 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: billegoat folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: igthisone (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: nikeEclipse (small blind) folded on the FlopSeat 6: jkosfcp (big blind) collected (180)Seat 7: dunzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: CherylB folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: bballew22 folded on the Turn

[greatwhite 0]

For the first hand I would probablly play it the same. However, if another person or 2 were left to act behind me I'd say check-fold the flop.

[JacKingOff_suit 0]

How about the next one? Good gamble or not? I believe weak player's weak bet means weak most of the time, that made up my river decision.H1PokerStars Game #196: Tournament #70, $20+$2 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/04/26 - 00:43:31 (ET)Seat 1: ShipMeUrMony (2700 in chips) Seat 2: blauman32 (915 in chips) Seat 3: billegoat (2700 in chips) Seat 4: igthisone (630 in chips) Seat 6: jkosfcp (1805 in chips) Seat 7: dunzz (1445 in chips) is sitting outSeat 8: CherylB (1640 in chips) Seat 9: bballew22 (1665 in chips) dunzz: posts small blind 15CherylB: posts big blind 30*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jkosfcp [2d Jc 3c Ad]bballew22: calls 30ShipMeUrMony: folds blauman32: folds billegoat: folds igthisone: folds jkosfcp: raises 105 to 135dunzz: folds CherylB: folds bballew22: calls 105*** FLOP *** [Kh 5h 2h]bballew22: checks jkosfcp: checks *** TURN *** [Kh 5h 2h] [Tc]bballew22: bets 120jkosfcp: calls 120*** RIVER *** [Kh 5h 2h Tc] [Ks]bballew22: bets 150jkosfcp: raises 855 to 1005bballew22: folds fatmatt10 is connected jkosfcp collected 855 from potjkosfcp: doesn't show hand bballew22 said, "k"bballew22 said, "nh"*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 855 | Rake 0 Board [Kh 5h 2h Tc Ks]Seat 1: ShipMeUrMony folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: blauman32 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: billegoat folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: igthisone folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: jkosfcp (button) collected (855)Seat 7: dunzz (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 8: CherylB (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 9: bballew22 folded on the RiverHow weak is that weak player? PokerStars Game #0: Tournament #0, $20+$2 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/04/26 - 00:50:04 (ET)Seat 1: ShipMeUrMony (2625 in chips) Seat 3: billegoat (1197 in chips) Seat 4: igthisone (450 in chips) Seat 5: semelove (2846 in chips) Seat 6: jkosfcp (3260 in chips) Seat 7: dunzz (1304 in chips) Seat 8: CherylB (2205 in chips) Seat 9: bballew22 (2258 in chips) semelove: posts small blind 25jkosfcp: posts big blind 50*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jkosfcp [Jh Kd Jc 3c]wolfgang29 is connected dunzz: folds CherylB: folds bballew22: calls 50ShipMeUrMony: folds billegoat: folds igthisone: folds semelove: calls 25jkosfcp: checks *** FLOP *** [7d 4d 2d]semelove: checks jkosfcp: checks bballew22: bets 100semelove: calls 100jkosfcp: folds *** TURN *** [7d 4d 2d] [9d]semelove: checks bballew22: bets 300semelove: calls 300*** RIVER *** [7d 4d 2d 9d] [Tc]semelove: checks bballew22: bets 950semelove: calls 950*** SHOW DOWN ***bballew22: shows [9c Ad 2c As] (HI: two pair, Nines and Deuces)semelove: shows [6h 5d 3d 2s] (HI: a flush, Nine high; LO: 7,5,4,3,2)semelove collected 1425 from potsemelove collected 1425 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 2850 | Rake 0 Board [7d 4d 2d 9d Tc]Seat 1: ShipMeUrMony folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: billegoat folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: igthisone (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: semelove (small blind) showed [6h 5d 3d 2s] and won (2850) with HI: a flush, Nine high; LO: 7,5,4,3,2Seat 6: jkosfcp (big blind) folded on the FlopSeat 7: dunzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: CherylB folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: bballew22 showed [9c Ad 2c As] and lost with HI: two pair, Nines and DeucesH2PokerStars Game #40: Tournament #20, $20+$2 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/04/26 - 00:44:49 (ET)Table '23515270 15' 9-max Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 1: ShipMeUrMony (2700 in chips) Seat 2: blauman32 (915 in chips) Seat 3: billegoat (2700 in chips) Seat 4: igthisone (630 in chips) Seat 5: fatmatt10 (825 in chips) Seat 6: jkosfcp (2255 in chips) Seat 7: dunzz (1430 in chips) is sitting outSeat 8: CherylB (1610 in chips) Seat 9: bballew22 (1260 in chips) CherylB: posts small blind 15bballew22: posts big blind 30*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jkosfcp [3c 5s 4c 2h]dunzz is connected dunzz has returnedShipMeUrMony: folds blauman32: calls 30billegoat: folds igthisone: calls 30fatmatt10: folds jkosfcp: calls 30dunzz: folds CherylB: calls 15bballew22: checks *** FLOP *** [4s Ah Qh]CherylB: checks bballew22: checks blauman32: bets 150igthisone: folds jkosfcp: calls 150CherylB: folds bballew22: folds *** TURN *** [4s Ah Qh] [5c]blauman32: bets 450jkosfcp: raises 450 to 900blauman32: calls 285 and is all-inbillegoat said, "lol"*** RIVER *** [4s Ah Qh 5c] [3s]*** SHOW DOWN ***blauman32: shows [Ks 4h 3h As] (HI: two pair, Aces and Fours)jkosfcp: shows [3c 5s 4c 2h] (HI: a straight, Ace to Five; LO: 5,4,3,2,A)jkosfcp collected 960 from potjkosfcp collected 960 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 1920 | Rake 0 Board [4s Ah Qh 5c 3s]Seat 1: ShipMeUrMony folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: blauman32 showed [Ks 4h 3h As] and lost with HI: two pair, Aces and FoursSeat 3: billegoat folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: igthisone folded on the FlopSeat 5: fatmatt10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: jkosfcp showed [3c 5s 4c 2h] and won (1920) with HI: a straight, Ace to Five; LO: 5,4,3,2,ASeat 7: dunzz (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: CherylB (small blind) folded on the FlopSeat 9: bballew22 (big blind) folded on the Flop

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Fcking chasing moron. I went from the chip lead to a little above average now. Good thing is 28 left with 27 makes it to the money.Just checked, I am still in the 6th place. Ha!PokerStars Game #34: Tournament #70, $20+$2 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2006/04/26 - 02:40:27 (ET)Seat 1: Phunbaba23 (12320 in chips) Seat 3: acro1 (8987 in chips) Seat 4: bballew22 (12424 in chips) Seat 5: vermine (6119 in chips) Seat 7: hot nickel (14091 in chips) Seat 8: jkosfcp (30294 in chips) Seat 9: amhudcol (8391 in chips) vermine: posts small blind 300hot nickel: posts big blind 600*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jkosfcp [Ks Qd Ad 2d]jkosfcp: raises 1200 to 1800amhudcol: folds Phunbaba23: folds acro1: folds bballew22: folds vermine: folds hot nickel: calls 1200*** FLOP *** [3d 7h Ah]hot nickel: checks jkosfcp: bets 2400hot nickel: calls 2400*** TURN *** [3d 7h Ah] [Kd]hot nickel: checks jkosfcp: bets 8700bballew22 said, "wow"bballew22 said, "....."bballew22 said, "monster hand??"hot nickel: calls 8700*** RIVER *** [3d 7h Ah Kd] [Qs]hot nickel: bets 1191 and is all-injkosfcp: calls 1191*** SHOW DOWN ***hot nickel: shows [Qh Jh 5c Qc] (HI: three of a kind, Queens)jkosfcp: shows [Ks Qd Ad 2d] (HI: two pair, Aces and Kings)hot nickel collected 28482 from potNo low hand qualified*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 28482 | Rake 0 Board [3d 7h Ah Kd Qs]Seat 1: Phunbaba23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: acro1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: bballew22 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: vermine (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 7: hot nickel (big blind) showed [Qh Jh 5c Qc] and won (28482) with HI: three of a kind, QueensSeat 8: jkosfcp showed [Ks Qd Ad 2d] and lost with HI: two pair, Aces and KingsSeat 9: amhudcol folded before Flop (didn't bet)PS is rigged. :)PokerStars Game #55: Tournament #70, $20+$2 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2006/04/26 - 02:47:31 (ET)Seat 1: Phunbaba23 (10720 in chips) Seat 2: osmosis21 (35900 in chips) Seat 3: acro1 (9087 in chips) Seat 4: bballew22 (15624 in chips) Seat 6: Moe Rawn (16311 in chips) Seat 7: hot nickel (27382 in chips) Seat 8: jkosfcp (15203 in chips) Seat 9: amhudcol (7191 in chips) osmosis21: posts small blind 400acro1: posts big blind 800*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jkosfcp [Qh 4s As 2s]bballew22: calls 800Moe Rawn: folds hot nickel: folds jkosfcp: raises 1600 to 2400amhudcol: folds Phunbaba23: folds osmosis21: folds acro1: folds bballew22: calls 1600*** FLOP *** [Qc 7s 6d]bballew22: checks jkosfcp: bets 6000bballew22: raises 7224 to 13224 and is all-injkosfcp: calls 6803 and is all-in*** TURN *** [Qc 7s 6d] [Kh]*** RIVER *** [Qc 7s 6d Kh] [Ac]*** SHOW DOWN ***bballew22: shows [3c 7d 8d 2h] (HI: a pair of Sevens; LO: 7,6,3,2,A)jkosfcp: shows [Qh 4s As 2s] (HI: two pair, Aces and Queens; LO: 7,6,4,2,A)jkosfcp collected 15803 from potbballew22 collected 15803 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 31606 | Rake 0 Board [Qc 7s 6d Kh Ac]Seat 1: Phunbaba23 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: osmosis21 (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 3: acro1 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 4: bballew22 showed [3c 7d 8d 2h] and won (15803) with HI: a pair of Sevens; LO: 7,6,3,2,ASeat 6: Moe Rawn folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: hot nickel folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: jkosfcp showed [Qh 4s As 2s] and won (15803) with HI: two pair, Aces and Queens; LO: 7,6,4,2,ASeat 9: amhudcol folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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I am on tilt guys. :)PokerStars Game #877: Tournament #70, $20+$2 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XI (600/1200) - 2006/04/26 - 03:02:40 (ET)Seat 1: Phunbaba23 (17480 in chips) Seat 2: osmosis21 (40387 in chips) Seat 3: giants_2000 (19550 in chips) Seat 4: dittymung (9648 in chips) Seat 5: sparky516 (8828 in chips) Seat 6: Moe Rawn (13911 in chips) Seat 7: hot nickel (44245 in chips) Seat 8: jkosfcp (13804 in chips) Seat 9: amhudcol (7591 in chips) Moe Rawn: posts small blind 600hot nickel: posts big blind 1200*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jkosfcp [Qs Ac Js 8s]jkosfcp: raises 3000 to 4200amhudcol: folds Phunbaba23: raises 10200 to 14400osmosis21: folds giants_2000: folds dittymung: folds sparky516: folds Moe Rawn: folds hot nickel: folds jkosfcp said, "lets gambooooool"jkosfcp: calls 9604 and is all-in*** FLOP *** [4d Qh 9c]*** TURN *** [4d Qh 9c] [Tc]*** RIVER *** [4d Qh 9c Tc] [7c]*** SHOW DOWN ***jkosfcp: shows [Qs Ac Js 8s] (HI: a straight, Eight to Queen)Phunbaba23: shows [Ah Ad 9d 3h] (HI: a pair of Aces)jkosfcp collected 29408 from potNo low hand qualified*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 29408 | Rake 0 Board [4d Qh 9c Tc 7c]Seat 1: Phunbaba23 showed [Ah Ad 9d 3h] and lost with HI: a pair of AcesSeat 2: osmosis21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: giants_2000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: dittymung folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: sparky516 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: Moe Rawn (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 7: hot nickel (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 8: jkosfcp showed [Qs Ac Js 8s] and won (29408) with HI: a straight, Eight to QueenSeat 9: amhudcol folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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PS is giving me heartattack.Anyway in the final table now. 2nd chip lead.PokerStars Game #74: Tournament #0, $20+$2 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XII (800/1600) - 2006/04/26 - 03:19:52 (ET)Seat 1: Phunbaba23 (19856 in chips) Seat 2: osmosis21 (87233 in chips) Seat 6: Moe Rawn (12125 in chips) Seat 7: hot nickel (34811 in chips) Seat 8: jkosfcp (21419 in chips) jkosfcp: posts small blind 800Phunbaba23: posts big blind 1600*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jkosfcp [2h Ad Jc As]osmosis21: folds Moe Rawn: raises 3200 to 4800hot nickel: folds jkosfcp: raises 11200 to 16000Phunbaba23: folds Moe Rawn: calls 7325 and is all-in*** FLOP *** [Qs 2d Qd]*** TURN *** [Qs 2d Qd] [4d]*** RIVER *** [Qs 2d Qd 4d] [Ah]*** SHOW DOWN ***jkosfcp: shows [2h Ad Jc As] (HI: a full house, Aces full of Queens)Moe Rawn: shows [Jh Jd Kh Kd] (HI: a flush, King high)jkosfcp collected 25850 from potNo low hand qualified*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 25850 | Rake 0 Board [Qs 2d Qd 4d Ah]Seat 1: Phunbaba23 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 2: osmosis21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: Moe Rawn showed [Jh Jd Kh Kd] and lost with HI: a flush, King highSeat 7: hot nickel (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: jkosfcp (small blind) showed [2h Ad Jc As] and won (25850) with HI: a full house, Aces full of Queens

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Final 5, about 3rd place, not too far away from the 2nd. A6QQ ds meets AA22. I am out.Damn I don't know what to do now. Players are playing nlo8s more than ever. There was one 1k plo8 table going b4 but I would be seating in between chamy and another tuff guy no matter where i chose. Now the table broke.......