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[Wingmaster05 0]

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 6. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero checks.Flop: (6.50 SB) 2, 8, 7(6 players)Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 calls, MP3 raises, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP3 caps, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.Turn: (11.75 BB) 3(4 players)Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 bets, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.River: (15.75 BB) 4(4 players)best line here? go for the c/r or bet out?I like betting out better.

[The Nuts 0]

Three bet the flop and then call a cap? That's pretty gutsy. I don't think I could put three bets on a flop where I merely have a draw that may not be completed at all.You got really lucky to nail the nuts on the river. With four players (yourself included) to the river, I figure at least one will bet out (unless they're all on busted draws), so I'd go for the check-raise.

[Wingmaster05 0]

On the flop i will have an equity edge most of the time, and my three bet also kicks out higher gutshots that can destroy my hand. I think if i bet out I'm guaranteed one call, sometimes it get's raised and i pop again. Check raises in massive pots sometimes backfire. His hand is either a flush draw or a set most likely. hmm maybe a check raise is better, i can trap the fish in the middle.

[Zach6668 513]

I like the c/r on the river.I also love the flop play.- Zach

[amarillotg 0]

i wouldn't usually 3-bet this flop. maybe if i had position and there was a chance i could get a free card on the turn but here i probably just smooth call. i think 3-betting is setting the hand up to be played 3 way a large portion of the time.i bet out on the river. mp3 could have been on the come as well and bet the turn because of the CO. (not sure?)

[screech 0]

I would just call the initial flop raise and bet the river.

On the flop i will have an equity edge most of the time, and my three bet also kicks out higher gutshots that can destroy my hand. I think if i bet out I'm guaranteed one call, sometimes it get's raised and i pop again. Check raises in massive pots sometimes backfire. His hand is either a flush draw or a set most likely. hmm maybe a check raise is better, i can trap the fish in the middle.

With flush draws, and two pair/set/straight redraws, I don't think your equity is as good as you think on this flop. Probably towards the low end of 20-25%.So if it stays 5-6 handed, sure, you're pushing an equity edge. Unfortunately your 3-bet will usually knock out a few players, which may put you at an equity disadvantage while opening up the betting again.I like betting the river because given teh action so far, you are likely to get raised and can 3-bet. You may also trap the other player for an extra bet or two if he doesn't have a flush draw.

[DonkSlayer 1]

i'm not sure he's getting raised after betting into this river, b/c he just called on the turn. Villain knows that Hero doesn't think he can get him to fold by betting into the river, and so even with a set I think the Villain is just calling a bet here. If we check, we'll get a value bet and we can then c/r.

[screech 0]

i'm not sure he's getting raised after betting into this river, b/c he just called on the turn. Villain knows that Hero doesn't think he can get him to fold by betting into the river, and so even with a set I think the Villain is just calling a bet here. If we check, we'll get a value bet and we can then c/r.

Villian capped the flop. He either had a draw or a monster. Once he bets teh turn, he probalby has a monster. That 4 cant really help any of hero's range besides the hand he has or Ad5d. These hands are relataviley unlikely, so villian will probably raise the river if Hero bets. He will almost certainly raise the river if the player in-between calls.

[amarillotg 0]

what screech said.